@Eunice,
You are not late at all. I am keenly following the post.
The information have gotten so far is great and very helpful so far.

What i am still yet to grasp is the advantages of this approach as opposed to the standard way two cables, data and voice terminating
at the dual wall plate.

The approach of connecting phone to the pc seems to an old technology and adds extra cost to the whole cabling project.
Troubleshooting also becomes complicated especially if you are to change the patch panel
Moreover, the assumption is every user shall have an IP phone, what of situations where we have a workstation with users sharing
the headset?

Any way, i stand to be guided as i am not an expert in networking

Regards
Shad


From: Eunice Wa <tewafula@gmail.com>
To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 4:24:09 PM
Subject: [Skunkworks] Structured Cabling Question

Hi,
 
Am not sure if am late on this one.
 
This feature is not only specific to Cisco, actually most IP phones will have two ethernet ports, one to the network and one to the PC. 
 
No special cable is required, your ussual cat-5/6 cable will work fine here, you need a patch cord from phone to PC.
 
Also you need an IP Telephony system as your back-end to work with the IP Phone.
 
I have not worked with this technology on any analog system, am not sure how it would work out but would be interested to see that set-up.
 
You can buy IP Phones with this capability, also powered by the same cable on PoE starting from Ksh.8,000 from www.talinda.net
 
 
Thanks & Regards,
Eunice
 
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Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:27:34 +0300
From: Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>
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 IT is called the CISCO IP  phone system, it uses  the same connection for
data and voice


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> Corrections are welcome as to whether my thinking is correct, but a
> computer using a non-poe (ordinary LAN) cabling system uses only 4 strands
> (1,2,3,6) so you can carry two analog phone channels on that as well
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Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:45:59 +0300
From: Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>
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IMHO not all structured cabling solutions have Cisco at the endpoints, so
what gives? Decoupling is essential. As the Cisco solution is IP based it
will just use the 4 Ethernet strands while the 2-pair analog lines are still
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Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:46:33 +0300
From: Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
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Shad, as previously said, depends on how you want your phones and pc's to
coexist. But I think what you want is more of IP phones as opposed to
analogue phone setup. Its the easier setup.

I have done such hybrid (analogue and digital) setups before, for analogue
phones you need to be a little vigilant so that the right pairs are used
both on the discase and patch panel. Its a little different. If you want a
demo I can volunteer.

Peter

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:

>  IT is called the CISCO IP  phone system, it uses  the same connection for
> data and voice
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Corrections are welcome as to whether my thinking is correct, but a
>> computer using a non-poe (ordinary LAN) cabling system uses only 4 strands
>> (1,2,3,6) so you can carry two analog phone channels on that as well
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> Sorry guys...I meant VHS and not VHF
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> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
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>> do you mean VHS?
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>>> Who have what it takes to do a conversion for the above....and whats the
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Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:55:27 +0300
From: Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke>
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TV card -> avi -> DVD (convert to VOB if really need it)


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Ronnie kilel <ronniekilel@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Sorry guys...I meant VHS and not VHF
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
>>
>>> do you mean VHS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/6/8 Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Who have what it takes to do a conversion for the above....and whats the
>>>> cost?
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