@Kibe, I am cautious of social engineers. Note that I have avoided mentioning the country whose IP block we are using and many other things? By the way, we recieve calls from impersonators who call from "Oracle Dubai" asking what banking applications we use and such questions and when they ask for my email address, I give them my defunct yahoo email. I don't divulge any info on where I work, IP addresses, domain names etc, ama I have without knowing it?

2009/7/23 kihu kibe <kihukibe@gmail.com>
...public list......social engineering???  :-) :-)


On 7/23/09, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, I have dome some stuff using VBScript. I better not go into detail
> here. You don't even need to do a pen test to hack this network. All you
> need to do is find a free web proxy from a certain country coz the guys who
> did this LAN didn't use private IPs like 192.168.*.* they used public IPs
> from that country. So easy to hack, ain't it??? I have created a backdoor,
> not for any evil intention, but for supporting our upcountry branches where
> I take over a user's machine, say in Eldoret and install Kaspersky for him
> while he watches the mouse pointer move by itself with his jaw on the floor
> coz talking the guys through an installation can be detrimental to your
> mental health, trust me. I have no need to hack their system, all I want is
> a challenging career.. a place where I am learning stuff, not doing stuff
> and have my boss ask me "how did you do that??"
>
> But I think I will wait as peter has advised, and hope that something cool
> will come out of it. Thanks, but keep the comments flowing :)
>
>
>
> 2009/7/23 I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com>
>
>> @peter well said
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> An out of the box suggestion; those times you are idle, try to figure out
>>> how someone can gain unauthorized access to the core banking system.
>>> Since
>>> you are familiar with CCNA, you could start with the network. Yes I know
>>> it
>>> might be extremely hard but that only means that you have to look harder
>>> and
>>> read more manuals, thus keeping you busy.
>>>
>>> But based on your description of your boss, he sounds like the sorta dude
>>> who will fire you before you can even finish saying "Hey boss, I found a
>>> way
>>> to hack..."
>>>
>>> Chuks would call it Penetration Testing :-)
>>>
>>> Or maybe, learn a totally new programming language, create an application
>>> which will be doing those boring BOF and EOF operations for you, thus
>>> eliminating sources of boredom from your day to day life.
>>>
>>> Jokes aside, if you have no passion for what you are doing, there be no
>>> need to do it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Simon Mbuthia
>>> <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2009/7/22 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> @Simon - i hope your employer has never heard of skunkworks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You mean the dude I am with in IT?? I am sure he never has. But what I
>>>> have said is the truth anyway.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinion - talk to your boss.. explore what other opportunities there
>>>>> are in that current organization that you may be interested in. Also,
>>>>> use
>>>>> the "bored" time to learn about other things in the financial world..
>>>>> Learn
>>>>> their business, learn the industry, their ways of working. Don't limit
>>>>> yourself to the computer, explore.Maximize the opportunity, while at
>>>>> the
>>>>> same time, don't underperform in your role. Every organisation has
>>>>> something
>>>>> to offer, even if it is "how not to do business."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have tried talking to him, he appears far from enthused whenever I
>>>> talk
>>>> to him about anything except when we are talking about businesses one
>>>> can
>>>> start. he likes talking about bakeries and fertilizer production. [I'm
>>>> dead
>>>> serious] By the way, underperforming in my riole is unfathomable, my
>>>> role
>>>> involves routine work. When I come up with ideas like establishing a
>>>> domain,
>>>> he looks at me like I'm being ridiculous. Can you imagine UUNET had to
>>>> redo
>>>> the physical network here?? Wanna know why? They were using the *bus
>>>> topology*.. not in the 70s, in the 2000s. Don't you just pity me?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> when it comes to challenge - find you passion and look for something
>>>>> along those lines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have tried that, but there is so little that I can learn here. I am
>>>> trying to study how the banking system operates because all I have been
>>>> taught is routine work.. like when branches close for the day, do
>>>> end-of-day
>>>> like this [proceeds to demonstrate]
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To leave or not. Hard question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This I must and will surely do, God willing, only that I am not sure
>>>> when
>>>> is the best time.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tito.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, really. More comments welcome :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/7/22 aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Simon, thnks for that recent tip on SDK on my still troubled c
>>>>>> sharp journey. my adv would be that firstly leaving too soon would
>>>>>> like bad
>>>>>> on your resume and may affect your next job prospects.  You can use
>>>>>> the less
>>>>>> challenging times to eg study and build on better times ahead. Its one
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> those things one has no control over. :-)
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