So who is powering the technical aspect of it?

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> wrote:
Nationhela accounts (where the money actually sits) are not in any
Kenyan bank account. Think of it as an international visa card.

On 13 August 2012 13:01, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Killer solution this. I think this solves problems for all those who use
> paypal. But how is dtb using paypal if kenya is blacklisted?
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:20 AM, steven maina <ndungustephenm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  nmg have just launched a international remittance service called
>> nationhela that sends to and receives from paypal. it might be what you are
>> looking for. checkout it out at nationhela.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:41 AM, <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is not really a Blacklisting issues, its a variety of factors that are
>>> preventing withdrawals in Banks in Kenya (and other countries) such as:
>>>
>>> 1. Federal (US) Regulations, read Patriotic Act/Post 911 Terrorism
>>> policies/Money Laundering/Fraud etc. Unfortunately Kenyan policies might
>>> not subscribe to these. Anyway, I wont go into these details.
>>>
>>> More importantly is...
>>>
>>> 2. Paypal's inability to verify the address hence the identity of the
>>> account holders (In Kenya P.O. Boxes are used which is a Big no no). This
>>> is important because If anything goes wrong (read fraud) during a
>>> transaction and Paypal needs to issue a refund to the victim (assuming
>>> the
>>> money was promptly withdrawn), it will be a bit tricky for them to deal
>>> with a foreign banks. So Paypal is a little strict on who they allow to
>>> withdraw funds
>>>
>>> So in short there is a lot that needs to be ironed out policy wise before
>>> Paypal and its insurers put themselves at risk dealing with foreign users
>>> who cannot be reliably verified.
>>>
>>> Having a US bank account gives this verification and that is why you can
>>> comfortably withdraw to a US bank account if you can verify you have one.
>>>
>>> I hope this answers this issue of Paypal that keeps coming up on this
>>> list
>>> over and over and over...
>>>
>>> I think you get the picture.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Blacklisted how? And you can actually use the money in your Bank
>>> > account
>>> > via a debit/credit card to pay for a transaction via Paypal. Have they
>>> > just
>>> > blacklisted receiving money?
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Sham Kanji <shamhad@kanji.ca> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> From what I understand, Kenyan banks are all blacklisted by PayPal.
>>> >> ****
>>> >>
>>> >> ** **
>>> >>
>>> >> *From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:
>>> >> skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Martin Gicheru
>>> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:19 AM
>>> >> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List
>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] PayPal Withdrawal****
>>> >>
>>> >> ** **
>>> >>
>>> >> Wewe Bernard you had a promise you made to us on this item.****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> ****
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello skunks****
>>> >>
>>> >> Any update on PayPal withdrawals through a local bank?
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPad****
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Aug 3, 2012, at 13:51, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>> >>
>>> >> Bernard,
>>> >>
>>> >> Did the bank that was to offer Paypal withdrawals commence those
>>> >> services.
>>> >> Am sure some skunks including me would like to be in the know.
>>> >>
>>> >> /Bonz****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:14 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:*
>>> >> ***
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> I do not have  a solution at this point except am aware through very
>>> >> reliable means that a local bank will soon offer Paypal withdrawals
>>> >> and
>>> >> that should sometime later this month.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bernsoft is an appointed technical integration partner for Paypal.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards****
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>
>>> >> wrote:****
>>> >>
>>> >> I have been reduced to be relying on the web hosting and domains money
>>> >> instead, we are a webhost company infoken.co.ke and our server is
>>> >> histed
>>> >> in the US, use the dollars in paypal to pay for those services and
>>> >> refund
>>> >> myself, its cheaper but dependent on those factors to work, not very
>>> >> reliable.****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 7, 2012 8:26 AM, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:****
>>> >>
>>> >> While we all wait for Bernsoft to cut through the thick mesh of
>>> >> bureaucratic red tape, here is the method that works for me...
>>> >>
>>> >> When I receive the funds in my paypal, I send them to a "contact" of
>>> >> mine
>>> >> in US who then withdraws the same into his bank account there, then
>>> >> sends
>>> >> the monies to me via Mpesa or Moneygram. Mpesa is usually faster since
>>> >> he
>>> >> can do it from his phone wherever he is, but it is more expensive
>>> >> since
>>> >> he
>>> >> is charged to send and I am charged to withdraw. Moneygram is cheaper
>>> >> and
>>> >> instant, but he has to find a Moneygram depot to send from so it is a
>>> >> bit
>>> >> slower. Withdrawing from Paypal to bank account takes about 3 days.
>>> >>
>>> >> On average, I lose about $10 to $50 due to all those middlemen. The
>>> >> more
>>> >> I
>>> >> send, the more I lose. I lose even more if I am converting from one
>>> >> currency to another. But it is a price I have to bear.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bottomline: It can be done but it is expensive.
>>> >>
>>> >> ****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>
>>> >> wrote:****
>>> >>
>>> >> So how does Bernsoft work, I havent ever succeeded getting my money
>>> >> off
>>> >> paypal.
>>> >> What does one require to do to achieve this?
>>> >> Martin Gicheru
>>> >> Techweez****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 6, 2012 1:06 PM, "bernard kioko" <bernsoft@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:****
>>> >>
>>> >> Bernsoft is an official Paypal Integration Partner.****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Mickey Mickey
>>> >> <michaelakunga@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:****
>>> >>
>>> >> You know this how, please confirm your sources****
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:*
>>> >> ***
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> Later on this month, Paypal will launch a withdrawal process through
>>> >> one
>>> >> or more of the local banks.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards****
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Peter Matogo <pmatogo@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:***
>>> >> *
>>> >>
>>> >> I'd recommend the MasterCard from CFCStanbic.
>>> >> when applying for the card be sure to inform them that you intend to
>>> >> do
>>> >> this.****
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> ****
>>> >>
>>> >> *2012/6/5 Peter Matogo <pmatogo@gmail.com>*****
>>> >>
>>> >> *One solution would be to get a credit card from one of the local
>>> >> banks.
>>> >> You will automatically get an account with the bank. The account can
>>> >> be
>>> >> either a Ksh account or a dollar account. You will then be able to
>>> >> transfer
>>> >> funds between your Paypal account and your bank account.*****
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> @Peter, do you know anyone who has successfully done that? ****
>>> >>
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