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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: e-Government Website - New Face (Solomon Mburu)
   2. (E-Gov) The Internet Revolution is less than 15 per    cent
complete (Gakuru Alex)
   3. A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND SAFARICOM IP
(chuks Jonia)
   4. Re: A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND SAFARICOM    IP
(John Macharia)
   5. Re: A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND SAFARICOM    IP
(chuks Jonia)
   6. Re: A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND SAFARICOM    IP
(Steve Muchai)
   7. Re: A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND SAFARICOM    IP
(chuks Jonia)
   8. Google.co.ke (Mbugua Njihia)
   9. Re: HP laptop DV600 price .. (Alvin Jason Ochieng)
10. Re: e-Government Website - New Face (ngare jq)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:09:18 -0300
From: Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] e-Government Website - New Face
Message-ID:
    <98099ee50905061009s9aca4d4q7af0710de6a3576e@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Most of the govt websites are done by kenyaweb.com, who seem to have a
preference over JOOMLA. The govt's ICT guys should not be blamed if
the ISP is the problem. On restering skunkworks as a business unit, a
plan should already be in place... like yersterday morning!

On 06/05/2009, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
> I move a motion to register Skunkworks KE as a business entity!
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Paul Mathu <mails.mathu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The loopholes in all these display alot of laxity in implementing industry
>> standards in these projects. I like the way we point out the faults, damn
>> ain't we good at this!!!
>> This brings me to thinking, suppose we had a clearly cut out outfit, not a
>> group of techies virtually existing in a mail list but a legal body
>> reconised by law. We would be in a better position to put the people
>> involved on a spotlight and also the govt on different ICT policy.
>> No matter how long we will want to brush this under the carpet, it will
>> always show up, and i will quote another member on the list who said, even
>> if we won't do this, some techie will do it, they might not be the best to
>> do it, but they will.
>> So isn't time we quit loads of talk and wishful thinking and get down to
>> some action!!!
>> MHO
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Mathu
>>
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>>
>>
>

--
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all
the same way to the side of a hill!

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:18:53 +0300
From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: [Skunkworks] (E-Gov) The Internet Revolution is less than 15
    per    cent complete
Message-ID:
    <1981f3fd0905061218pb92076dh3821d900903b441c@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

/FYI

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Subject: [ke-internetusers] The Internet Revolution is less than 15
per cent complete
To: ke-users <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>

A great presentation by Michael R. Nelson, Professor, Georgetown University.

Amazing Slide no 36

Steps in "The Government Innovation Journey" (from Todd Ramsey, IBM, 2007)
Online Government -> Interactive Government -> Integrated Government
-> Extended Government -> Collaborative Government

Slide 37

SO WHAT?S GOVERNMENT?S ?ROLE?
1. Early adopter of new technologies (such as Virtual Worlds, Grid)
2. Promote competition and investment in telecom infrastructure
3. Enable new access technologies (e.g. WiMax)
4. Education and training
5. Foster open standards and open source software
6. Help create a foundation for a secure Internet
7. ?Future proof? your policies

<http://www.foreseeresults.com/_downloads/presentations/DC08_TheCloud_Nelson.pdf>

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 23:13:08 +0300
From: chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: [Skunkworks] A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND
    SAFARICOM IP
Message-ID:
    <ef0cde3a0905061313k637d3a9eg743f3b5bfed576c8@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

If havent checked your logs, please do. Alot of guys are bruteforcing
using dongles and gaining access to systems. Check
http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/2009-May/000104.html

./Chuks

--
--
Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P
I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
infosigmer@inbox.com

{FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
http://nspkenya.blogspot.com/
http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
http://www.kamongo.co.ke/

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 23:26:02 +0300
From: John Macharia <kihahu@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND
    SAFARICOM    IP
Message-ID:
    <2a9d3f150905061326jfba0110k3ef11a3c5d089aca@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Its from safcom!!

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 23:13, chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:

> If havent checked your logs, please do. Alot of guys are bruteforcing
> using dongles and gaining access to systems. Check
> http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/2009-May/000104.html
>
> ./Chuks
>
> --
> --
> Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S..C.P
> I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
> infosigmer@inbox.com
>
> {FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
> http://nspkenya.blogspot.com/
> http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
> http://www.kamongo.co.ke/
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 23:30:30 +0300
From: chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND
    SAFARICOM    IP
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yeah the IPs are from Zain and Safcom most likely from dongles.
Someone just learned how to do it.

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM, John Macharia <kihahu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Its from safcom!!
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 23:13, chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If havent checked your logs, please do. Alot of guys are bruteforcing
>> using dongles and gaining access to systems. Check
>> http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/2009-May/000104.html
>>
>> ./Chuks
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P
>> I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
>> infosigmer@inbox.com
>>
>> {FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
>> http://nspkenya.blogspot.com/
>> http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.kamongo.co.ke/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Skunkworks mailing list
>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke
>> Other lists
>> -------------
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>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>
>

--
--
Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P
I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
infosigmer@inbox.com

{FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
http://nspkenya.blogspot.com/
http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
http://www.kamongo.co.ke/

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 00:53:00 +0300
From: Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND
    SAFARICOM    IP
Message-ID:
    <4c0507190905061453v2cbb44bbi27558cf54029efbf@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:13 PM, chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
> If havent checked your logs, please do. Alot of guys are bruteforcing
> using dongles and gaining access to systems. Check
> http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/2009-May/000104..html
>
> ./Chuks
>

Seen this before, was a rootkit running on a poorly secured *nix box
that was poorly secured.

Usually IRC bots, but could be different. At least was IRC then. The
rootkit does the brute force attack and reports back to an IRC channel
once it hits another box, then that can be used to relay spam, porn,
warez...the works....and oh yes, another brute force attack.

BR,
S

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 00:57:52 +0300
From: chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] A LOT OF SSHD BRUTEFORCING FROM ZAIN AND
    SAFARICOM    IP
Message-ID:
    <ef0cde3a0905061457m6a855bd3r20520674a268428a@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Steve, these are not IRC bots. I have worked with such. These are
coming from direct IPs, am sure these are dongles.

IRC bots jump from one Zombie to another depending on the networks
that the herder has compromised.

./Chuks

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:13 PM, chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If havent checked your logs, please do. Alot of guys are bruteforcing
>> using dongles and gaining access to systems. Check
>> http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/2009-May/000104.html
>>
>> ./Chuks
>>
>
> Seen this before, was a rootkit running on a poorly secured *nix box
> that was poorly secured.
>
> Usually IRC bots, but could be different. At least was IRC then. The
> rootkit does the brute force attack and reports back to an IRC channel
> once it hits another box, then that can be used to relay spam, porn,
> warez...the works....and oh yes, another brute force attack.
>
> BR,
> S
> _______________________________________________
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> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>

--
--
Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E..H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P
I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
infosigmer@inbox.com

{FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
http://nspkenya.blogspot.com/
http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
http://www.kamongo.co.ke/

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 03:29:59 +0300
From: "Mbugua Njihia" <mbugua@symbiotic.co.ke>
To: <skunkworks@my.co.ke>
Subject: [Skunkworks] Google.co.ke
Message-ID: <89148590DAC145DEAE523BD2FA0AFAC3@CreativeMind>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

This morning going to google.co.ke I kept being redirected to other sites!
Other goggle properties open fine.

Anyone else with a similar experience?

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:33:07 +0300
From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] HP laptop DV600 price ..
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Peter,
Most of these guys are not trained to those levels.All they know are
the specs that me and you see hence the difference btw IT Companies
and retailers as training is quite costly.

NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT - For NFS2

On 5/6/09, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
> I once asked a sales dude at a reputable electronics shop, which is better
> between NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT and ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4530. I got such
> a crappy answer that the only thing left to do was smile and walk out. So
> Mr. Alvin, suppose I want to play NFS2 Underground at full graphics details,
> which way do i go?
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Boss closest available :
> >
> > HP Pavilion dv5-1170ei Entertainment Notebook PC!!!
> > Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 (2..0GHz ? FSB-800MHz ? 2 MB L2 cache)
> > Processor; 3072MB DDR2 Memory; 250GB SATA HDD; Super Multi DVD Writer
> > DVD+/-R +/-RW; NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT; 15.4? WXGA High Definition
> > BrightView Widescreen; HP Pavilion WEBCAM integrated microphones; 3D
> > Sound Blaster Pro 16 bits; Wireless 802.11b/g; IEEE 1394 FireWire;
> > Bluetooth; Modem; 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN; Remote Control;
> > Integrated Finger Print Reader; 5-in-1 card Reader; Windows Vista Home
> > Premium, 1 year warranty.
> >    Bundled Software: Microsoft Works, Windows Media
> > Player, Windows Photo Gallery, DVD Play, Windows Movie Maker, Windows
> > DVD Maker, Cyberlink DVD Suite, Windows Media center, QuickPlay for
> > Windows.
> > @ 69,500/=
> >
> >
> > HP Pavilion dv6-1155ei (Espresso) Entertainment Notebook PC!!!
> > Intel Core 2 Duo T6400 (2.0GHz ? FSB-800MHz ? 2 MB L2
> > cache) Processor; 4096MB DDR2 Memory; 320GB SATA HDD; Super Multi DVD
> > Writer DVD+/-R +/-RW; ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4530; 15.6? Diagonal High
> > Definition HP Brightview Display; HP Pavilion WEBCAM integrated
> > microphones; SRS Premium Sound - 3D Sound Blaster Pro 16 bits;
> > Wireless 802.11b/g; IEEE 1394 FireWire; Bluetooth; Modem; 10/100/1000
> > Gigabit Ethernet LAN; Remote Control; Integrated Finger Print Reader;
> > 5-in-1 card Reader; Windows Vista Home Premium, 1 year warranty.
> > Bundled Software: HP
> > MediaSmart Suite, Windows Media Player, Windows Photo Gallery, DVD
> > Play, Windows Movie Maker, Windows DVD Maker, Cyberlink DVD Suite,
> > Windows Media center, Adobe Reader, Microsoft Works and Microsoft
> > Office Home and Student 2007 60-Day Trial Version.
> > @ 77,000/=
> >
> >
> > contact me offlist when ready.
> >
> >
> > Alvin Ochieng
> > Corporate Account Manager
> > Greenline Technology Limited
> > IT Hardware and Software Solutions
> > 2nd Floor, Odyssey Plaza,
> > Mukoma Road.
> >
> > Email :info@greenline.co.ke
> > +254 20 651755 / 552086
> > +254 20 2425225 / 2429743
> > +254 20 559841
> > +254 722-219938 / 733-610758
> >
> > Print only when necessary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/5/6 ibtisam jamal <ibty.jamal@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > RAM 2gB
> > > speed 2.2 Ghz
> > > 320 GB memory
> > > webcam
> > > internal modem
> > >
> > >
> > > 2009/5/6 Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> Kindly give the full spec. I hope you know these are Entertainment
> > >> laptops and not what we call ''Commercial Laptops''. Contact me
> > >> offlist
> > >>
> > >> Alvin Ochieng
> > >> Corporate Account Manager
> > >> Greenline Technology Limited
> > >> IT Hardware and Software Solutions
> > >> 2nd Floor, Odyssey Plaza,
> > >> Mukoma Road.
> > >>
> > >> Email :info@greenline.co.ke
> > >> +254 20 651755 / 552086
> > >> +254 20 2425225 / 2429743
> > >> +254 20 559841
> > >> +254 722-219938 / 733-610758
> > >>
> > >> Print only when necessary
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:29 AM, ibtisam jamal <ibty.jamal@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Hi guys,
> > >> >
> > >> > Would anyone be knowing the price of HP DV600 laptop ??
> > >> >
> > >> > regards,
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > Skunkworks mailing list
> > >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
> > >> >
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
> > >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
> > >> > Other lists
> > >> > -------------
> > >> > Skunkworks announce:
> > >> >
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
> > >> > Science -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
> > >> > kazi -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Alvin Ochieng -   Corporate Account Manager
> > >> GREENLINE TECHNOLOGY LIMITED| IT solutions
> > >> Odyssey Plaza 2nd Floor| Mukoma Road | Box 61895-00200 Nairobi.
> > >> |+254.20. 651755 / 552086 Fax +254.20-559841.
> > >> **Wireless - 020-2405225 / 020 - 2429734 **
> > >> CellPhone ? 0722-219938 / 0733610758
> > >> ? Help save paper - do you need to print this email?
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Skunkworks mailing list
> > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
> > >>
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
> > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke
> > >> Other lists
> > >> -------------
> > >> Skunkworks announce:
> > >>
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
> > >> Science -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
> > >> kazi -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Skunkworks mailing list
> > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
> > >
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
> > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
> > > Other lists
> > > -------------
> > > Skunkworks announce:
> > >
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
> > > Science -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
> > > kazi -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alvin Ochieng -   Corporate Account Manager
> > GREENLINE TECHNOLOGY LIMITED| IT solutions
> > Odyssey Plaza 2nd Floor| Mukoma Road | Box 61895-00200 Nairobi.
> > |+254.20. 651755 / 552086 Fax +254.20-559841.
> > **Wireless - 020-2405225 / 020 - 2429734 **
> > CellPhone ? 0722-219938 / 0733610758
> > ? Help save paper - do you need to print this email?
> > _______________________________________________
> > Skunkworks mailing list
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> > Other lists
> > -------------
> > Skunkworks announce:
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
> > Science -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
> > kazi -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> kazi -
> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>
>

--

Regards,
Alvin Ochieng -   Corporate Account Manager
GREENLINE TECHNOLOGY LIMITED| IT solutions
Odyssey Plaza 2nd Floor| Mukoma Road | Box 61895-00200 Nairobi.
|+254.20. 651755 / 552086 Fax +254.20-559841.
**Wireless - 020-2405225 / 020 - 2429734 **
CellPhone ? 0722-219938 / 0733610758
? Help save paper - do you need to print this email?

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:49:41 +0300
From: ngare jq <jq..ngare@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] e-Government Website - New Face
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Solomon Mburu,

you give us (kenyaweb) way to much credit ('blushing') the truth is we have
done a number of government sites no more than other sectors ad say about 8
or so (we have an odd forty something ministries) what we like about them is
the potential functionality they possess over and above the subjective
maridadi issues and of course the future impact they will have on citizens
as the govt consolidates its technologies and moves more into online
systs....al kags and paul kukubo if ictb, egov et al can tell you about the
brilliant initatives they have...some are already functional....we take
pride that we were apart of this.

On Joomla, well nothing beats a quality open source system that has a jet
engine and says the starship enterprise probably has its warp engines
running me! :-)

rgds
jack ngare

ps
no the sites under review were not done by us.

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:

> Most of the govt websites are done by kenyaweb.com, who seem to have a
> preference over JOOMLA. The govt's ICT guys should not be blamed if
> the ISP is the problem. On restering skunkworks as a business unit, a
> plan should already be in place... like yersterday morning!
>
> On 06/05/2009, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I move a motion to register Skunkworks KE as a business entity!
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Paul Mathu <mails.mathu@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The loopholes in all these display alot of laxity in implementing
> industry
> >> standards in these projects. I like the way we point out the faults,
> damn
> >> ain't we good at this!!!
> >> This brings me to thinking, suppose we had a clearly cut out outfit, not
> a
> >> group of techies virtually existing in a mail list but a legal body
> >> reconised by law. We would be in a better position to put the people
> >> involved on a spotlight and also the govt on different ICT policy.
> >> No matter how long we will want to brush this under the carpet, it will
> >> always show up, and i will quote another member on the list who said,
> even
> >> if we won't do this, some techie will do it, they might not be the best
> to
> >> do it, but they will.
> >> So isn't time we quit loads of talk and wishful thinking and get down to
> >> some action!!!
> >> MHO
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Mathu
> >>
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