Mind if i ask why there's so much of an issue regarding Mac OS? I've done some checking in to the differences between a high spec Hackintosh and a High Spec Mac. There is a difference. And i know this as much as the next person who's done his / her research on the matter. Mac OS is written to work with the Apple Hardware. This was true with the Motorola chipset and is as true now. The next phase will involve a completely new generation of Mac's i'm putting my bet on Summer 2012 with the A7 or A8 processors working at probably what would be the eventual double of a quad i7 or more. Apple has always had the mind to be different. What will set them apart now is going to be as revolutionary as the G5 in it's day. While we're talking about different ways to work with OSX on a machine, VMWare is another option. There's an open install somewhere on the torrent-scapes which also entails how to install OSX as though it's running native on your PC from boot. While i agree that there is usage of Unix, keep in mind, that they're using the same Kernel you have access to. The primary difference is the development of the way they're using it and that's what they're selling, as of October 26th 2007, Mac OS X was declared a flavor of Unix. Albeit it's not a free version, it is still a flavor. Wikipedia: *Mac OS X* (pronounced /ˈmæk ˌoʊ ˌɛs ˈtɛn/<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English> )[7] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-ten_not_x-6> is a series of Unix <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix>-based operating systems<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system>and graphical user interfaces <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interface>developed, marketed, and sold by Apple Inc. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.> Since 2002, Mac OS X has been included with all new Macintosh<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh>computer systems. Mac OS X is based upon the Mach kernel<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_kernel> .[13] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-12> Certain parts from FreeBSD <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD>'s and NetBSD<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBSD>'s implementation of Unix <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix> were incorporated in NeXTSTEP <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTSTEP>, the core of Mac OS X. NeXTSTEP was the object-oriented operating system<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_operating_system>developed by Steve Jobs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs>' company NeXT<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT>after he left Apple in 1985. [14] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-13> While Jobs was away from Apple, Apple tried to create a "next-generation" OS through the Taligent <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taligent>, Copland<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%28operating_system%29>and Gershwin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gershwin_operating_system> projects, with little success.[15]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-14> Eventually, NeXT's OS, then called OPENSTEP<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStep>, was selected to be the basis for Apple's next OS, and Apple purchased NeXT outright.[16] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-15> Steve Jobs returned to Apple as interim CEO, and later became CEO, shepherding the transformation of the programmer-friendly OPENSTEP into a system that would be adopted by Apple's primary market of home users and creative professionals. The project was first known as *Rhapsody<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhapsody_%28operating_system%29> * and was later renamed to *Mac OS X*.[17]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-16> Mac OS X Server 1.x, was incompatible with software designed for the original Mac OS and had no support for Apple's own IEEE 1394 interface<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1394_interface>(FireWire). Mac OS X 10.x included more backward compatibility <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward_compatibility> and functionality by including the Carbon API<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_API>as well as FireWire support. As the operating system evolved, it moved away from the legacy Mac OS to an emphasis on new "digital lifestyle" applications such as the iLife <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILife> suite, enhanced business applications (iWork <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IWork>), and integrated home entertainment (the Front Row<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Row_%28software%29>media center). [18] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-17> Each version also included modifications to the general interface, such as the brushed metal<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brushed_Metal_%28interface%29>appearance added in version 10.3, the non-pinstriped titlebar appearance in version 10.4, and in 10.5 the removal of the previous brushed metal styles in favor of the "Unified" gradient window style.[19]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-18> [20] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#cite_note-19> Given that you now Know that ( info above ) can you still argue that you're buying a Free System? there's a lot that's gone in to it. I'll be here all week if you have any more questions. * W.* On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:42 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alan,
Do you mean the same "free" kernel that just grossed billions in revenues? So remove the kernel, will the OS function? I'm certain the device will have an unsmiling face on boot-up.
Rgds.
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Alan Orth <alan.orth@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki,
Heh, it boils down to differing opinions of the word "freedom." ;)
GPL's definition of freedom is a "viral" one, meaning that derivatives of GPL software must also be be GPL. To the BSD people this is restrictive. BSD's definition is a less-restrictive freedom, in that you can do "whatever the fuck" you want to do with it, including print it on a roll of toilet paper and wipe your ___ with it. You can also choose to give back if you want. There is no obligation. :)
Also, while they're similar UNIX-like OSes, FreeBSD and Mac OS X don't share much more than the kernel. Apple's userland is heavily modified, and the windowing environment is as proprietary as they come. Darwin's only useful if you're into computer science research basically!
Alan
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