
@Claire, I explained very clearly in an earlier post why the answer is 53 and not 13 and not 120. There are things that you do in life out of instinct (Inverse Kinematics) and dont know you actually do it and subtracting numbers is one of them. Subtracting a number is actually adding a negative number. Nways this equation is one of those things that can get you in trouble if you don't know what you are doing. As explained in my earlier post, every time you encounter a minus (-) before a number what you are really encountering is +(-number) the + and the brackets are implicit. Just that your teachers didnt tell you this. Maybe they too didnt know. Its little things like these that cause nasty bugs in software and developers can never figure out why their software is not working the way they expect. Steve Obbayi Software Developer ----- "Claire Njoki" <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Good morning guys,
I still believe the answer is 13...
But, let us assume that the answer is 53, then the BLCB should get on this case ASAP because the guy who won the Ksh. 160,000 said that the answer was 120....that is waaaaaaaaaay off the 53 or 13...
Clearly this is unfair because there were other callers who had said 53 and were told that they were wrong.
Does this mean that BLCB is sleeping on its job? Do they even monitor these draws? Does that mean that there are people who have "fraudulently" won millions in the past. I know these are games of chance but still there needs to be fairness!
Anyway, I still think the answer is 13.
Claire.
Negative Zero as far as i know only exists in Pure Maths. This was not, pure maths unless i missed a century and we all got Super Smart in that time.. :D
futureWatchman.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Martin I noticed that
----- "Martin G. Kamau" <gachunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Steve Thank you for clarifying. I may not have had the technical jargon to put across my point, but we were going to the same destination all the same.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
You guys are all wrong. Let me explain how BODMAS and how your computers
calculate
There is no such thing as -0 to start with
So to break down that equation using BODMAS its like so..
1 + (-0) + 1 = 2
Since 0 = -0 = +0
To understand this stuff well, every time you see a minus sign
use it
as a UNARY OPERATOR and not a BINARY OPERATOR. So just put the number with the minus sign in braces and prepend it with a plus (+) BINARY OPERATOR as I have done above. While the minus because of the brackets in the BODMAS rule qualifies it to be a UNARY OPERATOR
Hope this clears the air on this simple problem
----- "Collins Areba" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
DUDE, there is nothing like negative zero! does not exist. my only word of advise though, when you have to rearrange the equation to justify an arguement, you are doing what we reffered to as MalReasoning. Deiberately refusing to reason..
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Martin G. Kamau <gachunga@gmail.com>wrote:
@Collins I can see where you are coming from but 0 is a negative number (in this case), thus we re-arrange the numbers to have 1+1+(-0) =
On 12/30/10, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote: 2.
> > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Collins Areba <
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cant believe a BODMAS question can elicit this much response. @Martin you are wrong, true in BODMAS you add before you subtract. so add 0 and 1 first, thats 1, then 1-1 thats zero.
> > how did you do your addition kwani?
> > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Martin G. Kamau < gachunga@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I may be wrong, but according to BODMAS, addition is done before > subtraction, therefore 1-0+1 = 2. The mistake folks are making is > introducing brackets where there were none, thus the classic creating > your > own questions :) > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Erick Njenga > <eriknjenga@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtraction >> >> > > >> >>> The traditional names for the parts of the >>> formula<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula> >>> *c* - *b* = *a* >>> >>> are *minuend* (*c*) - *subtrahend* (*b*) = *difference* (*a*). The >>> words "minuend" and "subtrahend" are uncommon in modern >>> usage.[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtraction#cite_note-0> >>> Instead >>> we say that *c** and -b are terms, and treat subtraction as addition >>> of the additive >>> inverse<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_inverse> >>> .* The answer is still called the *difference*. >>> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtraction> >> >> > > -- >> > > >> >> > > >> Thanks and Regards, >> Erick Njenga Nyachwaya, >> M: +254-725-008-790 >> >> > > >> <http://www.facebook..com/ErickNjenga><http://www.twitter.com/ErickNjenga> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > Skunkworks mailing list >> > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > > ------------ >> > > Skunkworks Rules >> > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > > ------------ >> > > Other services @ http://my.co...ke <http://my.co.ke> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Martin Kamau > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Skunkworks mailing list > > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > > ------------ > > > Skunkworks Rules > > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > > ------------ > > > Other services @ http://my.co...ke <http://my.co.ke> > > >
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