@Bernard, A Website is also a Web app, so long as it is dynamic i.e it has scripts (A.S.P, P.H.P, Javascript, Perl, etc) or programs (C / C++ / Vb / C#, Python, JAVA) active on either the client or server side and /or kind-of fetches its data from a store (relational / O-O / XML / flat files, etc) before display. The only condition is that it has to be accessible over a network, through an Intra or the Internet. In those regards, Facebook, Yahoo, Wordpress are some of the biggest Websites in the world today. A C.M.S is just another Web app used to build a Website, so Websites can either be static or dynamic if you have to draw a distinction. Websites are just meant to distribute documents on the WWW system i.e http servers. Please correct me if am wrong. Some statistics. 1) [ http://www.skuggen.com/2010/05/the-1000-largest-websites-in-the-world-2/ ] 2) [ http://techcrunch.com/2009/08/04/facebook-is-now-the-fourth-largest-site-in-...] Regards, Martin. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
People
I think you need to differentiate between WEBSITE and WEB APPLICATIONS.
WEBSITE - i see no harm in using CMS WEB APP (facebook is a web app to me) - I would think twice before i use a CMS for this.
There are plenty of WEBSITE developers/programmers/call them whatever you want. There are not many web app developers/programmers/call them whatever you want/ in Kenya
Thats what i see as the difference...
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:
I wonder where Zuckerburg would be today had he decided to use drupal 5 for his pet project thefacebook.com. You know, instead of reinventing the wheel as it were.
:)
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:04 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Just testing, sent an OT earlier but it seems not to have made it through. Anyway, if this makes it thru to the list, @Frankline its not about recognition etc. :-) However, from an engineering perspective or other professional fields, its seems that the developer area is quite unique. Its seems that before people become engineers they are already talking about the financials or the money making parts. I think what we maybe lacking are developer engineers, not developer enterprenuers. Thats the big difference and and probably explains why any areas of developing large scale systems is lacking.
Me thots.
Rgds. :-)
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Frankline Chitwa < frank.chitwa@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki, neither closed nor open source is the problem.the only thing that can kill real developers is software patents. Otherwise as long as there is compilers and script machines, people will always code, whether open or closed source. Accusing one side of this balance simply doesnt cut it with opinions aki. Give us facts.
on the other hand. How low can you go in search of recognition? If using cms equals a lame developer, instead of just developing a cms, Why not start off by developing the programming language, then the cms. Oh wait, develop the an OS first then develop the language then the cms on top? Better yet, why not start with the hardware then dev the OS then language then the cms? I mean that would surely be hardcore!!
i hope i have made my point which is, it all depends on what you want to achieve and the scarce resources available to you. Dont expect seasoned devs to develop a cms when the populace has not exhausted the current available capability.
a personal cms may show you are hardcore, or it may show that you simply cannot integrate other peoples better developed free tools in your work, i.e you are a lame developer. Because all developers use other developers' work
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