No offence but Huh???
In summary? 3 points maybe ?

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
I doubt "marketing" is the right word to describe the phenomenon. It's
closer to a well-funded, grand corporate espionage guised as 'business
intelligence' aimed at wrecking competition to get/tighten grip on
consumers then monopolise on services and products, hard or soft, and
wired or wireless. Activating agents all over critical public
communications fora and departments?

Some of the antics employed as so crude sometimes one cannot help but
laugh off, other times it borders on deliberate, selected persons or
businesses communication isolation-remembering that interfering with
one's communication is unconstitutional.

It gets very nasty when one considers the revenue digits
involved/potential eyed..Consider far flung
<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/telecoms/3448534/Espionage-claims-by-telecoms-company.html>

It would be wise for us not to be dragged into their dominance/control
warfare, because what we need is more competition that lowers prices
and improves quality for you and everyone else, among and benefits
thereof.

A while back, CEO one of local companies was reported in the Standard
bragging about the existence of such a unit in their company. Later
their headquarters reported that the unit was disbanded. I wonder
whether or not it went more covert? What do the other companies run?
Who check what they are up to?

Telecommunication Service providers had better realise its the new
dawn of a new era of business practises, with several providers and
where reputation and trust will determine their long-term success.

They had better style-up since "anti-competitive" behaviour is now
illegal in here- or are they inviting investigations into their
conduct. Then the writing is on the wall, "High Court Orders Mobile
Company X, ISP Y or Softco Z investigated for anti-competitive
practises."

Communication is the  nerve system of any economy. The dangers of such
practices, if established, bordering on Economic Crimes may mean
losing their licenses (or jail terms?)What are the penalties?

To mitigate, industry-wise, US and Canada have Better Business Bureau
<www.bbb.org> where business reputation is published -> loss of
customers for crude-fashioned "cowboy" businesses.

The ICT Consumers Association has been working on an industry-led
initiative involving willing providers towards establishing a
framework similar to Better Business Bureau locally. I hope to later
communicate on new and old companies that join.

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I highly respect everyone in this forum and their opinions, however in the
> past few months I have been silently reading articles being circulated in
> this forum and am left wondering if some of us would adopt better ways of
> marketing their products and services in this forum.
>
> Allow me to point out some of the most annoying marketing gimmicks; I have
> noticed, people bashing other respected companies complaining of this
> service and that not working but secretly fronting their solutions. I have
> read the thread on KDN services and it holds no water. Likewise I have noted
> the same with the Telcos.
>
> Whereas we all deserve better if not best service from our vendors, I
> believe there are proper channels to present our grieviences to the
> concerned parties without involving everybody and mud slinging tactics. Some
> of the issues are trival and could be resolved in a phone call.
> If you want to sell or present your solution or if you are looking for a job
> and would like to market your skills, I would urge you to present such in a
> dignified manner. Mud slinging and name calling wouldn't take you far.
>
> Kind regards,
> --
> "Change is slow and gradual. It requires hardwork, a bit of
> luck, a fair amount of self-sacrifice and a lot of patience."
> .
>



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