Guys i really appreciate your advice, @Zack am not in Kenya for now we could work out something .. don't think....

On 15 October 2010 09:18, Laban Mwangi <lmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

You can save your computer resources and invest your time in using
vim/[gcc|g++]/gdb.
- VIM has everything all the big name IDEs have:
 - Auto-completion(ctrl-p), brace matching(%),Search(* over keyword
or <esc>/keyword), Auto-indent(<esc> :help cindent), buffers
(:buffers), code folding(z* ), building, debugging, spell checking,
abbr expansion....
 - GCC is  free, cross platform, standards compliant among other goodies.
 - GDB for debugging(You may also want to have a look at strace).

The best article summarising this for python(Mostly relevant to other
languages) is:
-  http://blog.dispatched.ch/2009/05/24/vim-as-python-ide/

Here's a couple of links
- http://tldp.org/HOWTO/C-editing-with-VIM-HOWTO/index.html
- http://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=213
- http://townk.blogspot.com/2007/07/vim-as-c-ide.html
- http://gcc.gnu.org/
- http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~gilpin/tutorial/


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
> Again I say, Watson says he needs to perfect his C++. A lot of these IDEs
> Qt, Borland, VC are awesome but the problem is they have none standard C++
> stuff in them that
> can slip into your code unawares. that can make you shoot yourself in the
> foot when trying to use a different IDE. If you have experience with C++ you
> will know different
> compilers behave differently and you
> will find code will just not compile on one while it does on another. So I
> suggest again, for learning purposes get a compiler like GCC and an editor
> like Notepad++.
> Make sure you also fix those line breaks on windows through preferences coz
> it can create some undefined behavior trying to compile the same on other
> platforms.
> Once you are comfortable with the C++ standard then you can move on to be
> more producive with the like of Qt, C++ Builder, VC and whatever else.
> Be Warned: keep off from Carbide.C++ or anything Symbian C++ for now as that
> will be like relearning a whole new flavor of C++
>
> Steve Obbayi
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frankline Chitwa" <frank.chitwa@gmail.com>
> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:54:38 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq
> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder
>
> Another very good IDE is QT. It is free and has all the libraries you need
> for dev. It is one of the ides i found to be as robust as possible while not
> hiding the C++ language from you.
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Zack Githinji <zachgithinji@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> If you are within Nairobi, i would get you a copy of Borland C++ Builder 5
>> and also 2010 Great Product if you are into hardware programming.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wouldn't recommend going that way coz some of these IDEs have got
>>> propriety extensions that are unique tothem and might break your code
>>> unexpectedly in
>>> other platforms or OSs. But as far as IDEs go, you can get
>>> Visual C++ 2010 Express (totally free) from microsoft (best for working
>>> on Windows). and you are good to go. But remember the none standard
>>> extenions are
>>> also there in this. An example is C++'s main() function. VC++ 2010 uses
>>> WinMain() so if you have that in you code outside windows you are in
>>> trouble.
>>>
>>> So you can go for GCC http://gcc.gnu.org and get there compiler which is
>>> standards compliant and cross platform. If you are on UNIX you can try Clang
>>> http://clang.llvm.org/
>>> This is a new standards compliant compiler and twice as fast as GCC and
>>> other compilers. Then you need to read up on Make/CMake www.cmake.org for
>>> configuring project builds, then you can also check out SCons a python
>>> based CMake which is much easier to use www.scons.org.
>>>
>>> If you choose to use GCC (MingW) then you can use Notepad++ as your
>>> editor or anyother that makes you happy :). Once you are comfortable with
>>> that then you can try out
>>> Visual C++ 2010 Express so you can recognize the non-standard stuff
>>> Microsoft has thrown in there and know how to handle it.
>>>
>>> Steve Obbayi
>>>
>>> SKYPE: sobbayi
>>> http://sobbayi.com
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:33:22 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq
>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder
>>>
>>> Not really, I need to perfect my C++ so I thought I should do it by
>>> building and coding at the same time, more like an free time thing .. what
>>> would you suggest ?
>>>
>>> On 14 October 2010 15:30, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anything specific you need C++ Builder for? coz there are "better"
>>>> alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Obbayi
>>>>
>>>> http://sobbayi.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:22:31 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq
>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder
>>>>
>>>> Internet ... I get only trials ... torrent cant do that on the network I
>>>> am
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 October 2010 15:18, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Internet, torrent ring any bells
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone who can help me out with a Builder?? Borland would be fine ...
>>>>>>
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