Speaking from personal experience with this list, I agree, there's more to it than a mailing list. To give the example of the recently formed EANOG, there is a lot happening in the background (John, Riyaz and Michuki are working on something) to give structure, funding etc. There is no hurry for a mailing list. Put up a good framework for the User Group (after all, it is a user group, not a mailing list being put together), that will add value and actually increase the quality of conversation in the user group. Vendor support is always a welcome plus. I am lost as to what the urgency for the mailing list is, as was pointed out, if anyone has any input, they should work with Conrad to expedite the process... -- Warm Regards, Phares Kaboro Kariuki