On 6/28/09, Barrack Otieno <
otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
> Al Kags, i would wish to throw the challenge back to you as a government
> officer, what you are talking about is no doubt achievable going by the
> strides i have seen in this forum nonetheless, what is the government and or
> related agencies like KICTB doing to inculcate this culture among our youth?
> dont forget tax payers money is used for such agencies to act as our
> thinktanks, in my opinion, our strategies at the top level are the ones
> failing us because a tam can be put together but possibilities of
> unscrupulous businessmen taking advantage of "cheap labour " from our highly
> talented youth are high this is where we are failing...
> I stand to be corrected
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Al Kags <
alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Much has been said on this forum about government, organisations and
>> companies not giving much work to developers who do are not
>> companies. having spoken to a few people who could give the contracts
>> etc., i understood them to say that the concerns were that their
>> concerns are:-
>>
>> 1. They cannot be assured of the freelance developers level of quality.
>> 2. They cannot be assured of the freelance developers delivery time -
>> that they will deliver everything they say they will at the appointed
>> time
>> 3. That they require too much supervision
>> 4. That they over promise.
>> 5. The development of a website/application requires several
>> competences - designer, IA, developer, integrator etc. The contention
>> is that you guys don't/won't work together as a team.
>>
>> Here's a question:
>>
>> If an organisation/ company was to decide to do a call for entries/
>> tender of sorts for a significant web project to be delivered by a
>> team of freelance individuals from this forum, can it be done?
>>
>> The sub-parts of these question are:-
>>
>> a) Can you form a team consisting of Project Manager (to assure
>> everything is done in time, guide the proposal making etc); Designer
>> (who does outstanding designs in CSS); Developer(s) who can work well
>> with Google Aps - integrate Gmaps etc into the site; mobile developer
>> to develop mobile apps, etc; integrator to ensure that the site is
>> seamless?
>>
>> b) Can your team come together and bid for the project in detail -
>> including what you can put together, timelines, budgets,
>> documentations etc? (Each member of the team would sign a contract and
>> would be paid as an individual for their quoted rate)
>>
>> c) Can the team that wins the bid implement the project in such a
>> seamless and timely manner, delivering such high quality that the
>> project can stand up as a model that the government, organisations and
>> companies can use to contract you?
>>
>> d) Being that this is such an untried model, would the other
>> developers in the skunkworks arena support the winning team to ensure
>> that they succeed in delivering the project at the highest possible
>> quality and within the exact time they promised to do so? If yes, what
>> is the structure that skunkworks would use to do this?
>>
>>
>> Here's my thinking. A lot of the developers and other related
>> professionals here are passionate and really good at what they do, and
>> they often just need a chance. Not everyone can be employed by the
>> 3mice etc of this world and so its a challenge to give everyone a
>> chance.
>>
>> Given the concerns expressed by the client group, the onus is on
>> interested people here to prove to them that the model of contracting
>> individual freelance professionals here is a workable one.
>>
>> I know one organisation that would be interested in trying it out. So
>> before they make a further move, I bring the idea here to you and ask,
>>
>> what is possible?
>>
>> --
>> Al Kags
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>>
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