The Python interpreter is very simple and powerful. That one I know for a fact. The language's abstract machine also has a fairly small footprint and is quite flexible. Martin. Python advocacy at its best: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882 Adrian Holovaty (django co-founder and a godfather of data journalism) on the beauty of Python: < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNTALycYJWY > -- ``You should write code because it's fun — because it's wonderful to create machines with your mind. Hugely empowering. Emotionally gratifying. Software is math-in-motion. It's a miracle of the mind. And if you can do it, really well, there's absolutely nothing like it." [ Dave Winer ] On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone else with a different opinion?
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Because the company that developed it preferred Python.
On 15 July 2013 15:01, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
This query is directed to language masters? Why python?
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com
wrote:
system is ok provided by crimson logic but hosting the system in Kenya is the issue, the 5w and 1h on the hosting company.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Simon Wainaina <swainaina@gmail.com>wrote:
by the way which country is providing the system? singapore? what system is it? i know it has been identified but not sure which one
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Antony Kimani < kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
as you all still cry over IEBC systems, I think it is a prime time now we scutinize a million dollar system (funded by taxpayer) to be implemented by KENTRADE to allow clearing and fowarding to be seamless.
antony...
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Martin Akolo Chiteri < martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote:
> A person was also kind enough to write an article about it < > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/07/estonia-publishes-its-e-voting-so... > > > > Martin. > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Martin Akolo Chiteri < > martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry, I understand that people ``moved on'' away from this topic a >> long time ago. >> >> Some interesting developments I bumped into recently. The sources >> to Estonia's E-voting system are now open: < >> https://github.com/vvk-ehk/evalimine > >> >> A large chunk of it is written in Python, just from a quick glance >> ...... O.k, actually the whole of it. >> >> Martin. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Martin Chiteri < >> martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Odhiambo Washington < >>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Haiya! You go to court. Small advise though - Okiya Okoiti >>>> Omtatah may be willing to accompany you. >>>> >>>> Actually I meant, "I refuse ...... to prove you wrong.". And as >>> you said, people have moved on. >>> >>> Martin. >>> >>>> >>>> On 16 April 2013 16:15, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Wash, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We have "moved on"! >>>>>> >>>>>> In one of todays dailies, UNDP offered to fund the audit of >>>>>> IEBC systems on condition that IEBC allows an outside body to participate >>>>>> in the audit process. Guess what? IEBC has refused and only want to audit >>>>>> itself internally. So why worry about what went wrong anyway? >>>>>> Perhaps we need to go to court to seek authority for external >>>>>> audit of IEBC, funded by UNDP of course. I can bet 100% that none of us >>>>>> really cares about that! >>>>>> Prove me wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> I refuse! :-) >>>>> >>>>> Martin. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 April 2013 15:01, Martin Chiteri < >>>>>> martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was hoping someone would post or comment on this link here: >>>>>>> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000081518&story_title=Kenya--IT-a... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Martin. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Heheee.. It's not only Western Media. Some Kenyan bloggers >>>>>>>> keen on being very controversial and very nasty have it too.. >>>>>>>> Check out our own (Kenya's) Robert Alai doing his verbal >>>>>>>> diarrhea here -> http://lix.in/-c9fe46 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7 March 2013 13:59, Dan Kwach <dan.kwach@kdn.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @ Wash... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wewe...heshimu Western media...the guys know thea stuff...:-D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dan O.Kwach. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/7/2013 1:48 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's the first time I heard on a p2p VPN requiring a RDBMs >>>>>>>>> to run:-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7 March 2013 13:44, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "The Safaricom Virtual Private Network that runs on >>>>>>>>>> Oracle ...." >>>>>>>>>> I stopped there...smh. >>>>>>>>>> If you're going to speculate, at least use an intelligent >>>>>>>>>> guess. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ./bernard >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2013 1:39 PM, "Dan Kwach" <dan.kwach@kdn.co.ke> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://intelligencebriefs.com/?p=3413 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure how accurate the above is though...I think >>>>>>>>>>> speculation is too rife for anyone to know the exact >>>>>>>>>>> truth.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rgds, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dan O.Kwach. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/7/2013 10:18 AM, Bogi Benga wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> word round is that the system was hacked >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/kenyan-election-2013/evans-ondieki-iebc-all... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who can shed more light on this? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Martin Chiteri < >>>>>>>>>>> martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nelson, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your comments, they are all very sound. I >>>>>>>>>>>> just need to put something small into context: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Adam Nelson < >>>>>>>>>>>> adam@varud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to respond to many of the issues raised >>>>>>>>>>>>> today about the IEBC, the electronic tallying system, and about open >>>>>>>>>>>>> access. As one of the few non-Kenyans on the list (2 months in Nairobi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> previously NY where I did alot of Python work), maybe I have a unique >>>>>>>>>>>>> outsiders point of view. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, this is not my election, but I it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> important to the world that Kenya has strong institutions and the duty to >>>>>>>>>>>>> create and maintain those institutions lies with everybody. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware is likely not the problem here (disk space >>>>>>>>>>>>> comments aside - which are surely do to logical, not physical errors), the >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem is multifaceted: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On this list, there is a strong bias towards "Kenyan >>>>>>>>>>>>> solutions" or "Kenyanborn". Aside from finding this kind of offensive, >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's also just petty and backwards. The reason IEBC exists is not to >>>>>>>>>>>>> support the local ICT industry, it's to facilitate a trustworthy platform >>>>>>>>>>>>> on which Kenyan elections can take place. In addition, there are hundreds >>>>>>>>>>>>> of elections a year around the world and for Kenya to have a one-off system >>>>>>>>>>>>> that has never been used elsewhere and will never be used elsewhere is >>>>>>>>>>>>> neither efficient nor high quality. Maybe the local word processor and >>>>>>>>>>>>> spreadsheet apps should be "Kenyanborn" too? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The general bias towards Kenyan solutions here stems >>>>>>>>>>>> from the fact that most procurements of I.T solutions, for both hardware >>>>>>>>>>>> and software by public institutions in Kenya, is tilted in favour of >>>>>>>>>>>> foreign vending companies. An assumption made is that the imported systems >>>>>>>>>>>> are of higher quality since they were "done abroad" even though this is not >>>>>>>>>>>> always the case. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The issue is that some of the systems end up being done >>>>>>>>>>>> largely by locals. The multi-nationals simply hire Kenyan developers less >>>>>>>>>>>> expensively to do the job right after being awarded the contract but >>>>>>>>>>>> maintain the figures invoiced earlier. In the end they cost a lot of money, >>>>>>>>>>>> for instance the IEBC system that attracted an invoice upwards of 100 >>>>>>>>>>>> million U.S.D. This is not too good especially to our economy's balance of >>>>>>>>>>>> payments. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What people are saying is that we can at least do >>>>>>>>>>>> half-a-decent job, that is all. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Martin. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> .... And now for something completely different: ``A >>>>>>>>>>>> radioactive cat has 18 half-lives.'' [ PyPy ] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> At my last job in the States, almost half the team was >>>>>>>>>>>>> non-American and that was a strength, not a weakness. We don't know what >>>>>>>>>>>>> happened at the IEBC yet, and kudos to the people working to get that data >>>>>>>>>>>>> available, but the failures here cannot be blamed on 'outsiders'. Some of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the commentary is bordering on xenophobic. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As for openness at the code level, that would >>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly be awesome. Check out this article ( >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/features/2012/11/internet-based-and-open-source-how-e...) >>>>>>>>>>>>> and connect with the Brazilians and Australians rather than try to create a >>>>>>>>>>>>> techno-autarky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarky). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/varud >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +254 712 966 801 <%2B254%20712%20966%20801> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/varud >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Bwana Lawi < >>>>>>>>>>>>> mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool, we have made up. Hugs and shoulder pats. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we get back to the issue at hand now? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Rad! < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I wish you had said that to begin with sans the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knee jerk reaction. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely agree with you about the opening up of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the software, and not just that - the processes and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedures followed by all the people in the chain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Bernard Owuor wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skunks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I knew that this windows-vs-linux thing was so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emotive, I'd have skipped it totally. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really obscuring the point I'm trying to make - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is - opening up softwares built in the public >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest - not just to strengthen the systems, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also to foster confidence among the varioius >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stake-holders. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Steve, you're really in agreement with me. We're all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speculating, so treat my "windows 8 server" bashing as just that. Just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between you and me, I know that mysql would complain thus in a Linux system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it ran out of disk space - because Linux stores locks on the disk. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't know the same happened in windows too. But hey, we're free to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speculate in the absence of information. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Rad, a bad workman 'quarrels' with his tool. Most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of those who 'blame' their tools seldom work, thus they don't qualify to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called workmen of any type.... A good workman selects the right tool for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the job. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 6, 2013 1:14 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] IEBC Systems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See? The last bastion of "professionals" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yet ATMs, MPesa etc run on Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bad craftsmen blame their tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Alex Nyalita wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wait... a Windows platform for a mission critical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system? SMDH!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Nyalita >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Patrick Kariuki < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where the experiential learning cycle comes in, when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've got all the time in the world; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. What happened to the system? (we have little or no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. What was experienced by the end user? (some error >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Why did this happen? (come up with all kinds of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible assumptions on what happened - based on similar error messages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you've had with different production systems) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. What is to be done to avoid future >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occurrences?(give free advise, we know they're reading this - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait, isn't someone getting paid to do all these??) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Bernard Mwagiru < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I've noticed I'm my short experience is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decimation of lessons learnt. Between us we have years of technical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands-on, get-your-hands-dirty experience. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What we should discuss in this thread, IMHO, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential design flaws. Without quoting any press on who said what or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where. Whiteafrican has a high level call flow on the various >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interconnecting elements. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can use that for starters. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./bernard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2013 10:18 AM, "Tech List Kenya" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's our professional duty and responsibility to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question this. In as much as IEBC needs time to sort themselves, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inasmuch as we acknowledge that things go wrong, we cannot just sweep it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under the carpet and shrug it off. Sorry to say, that's just plain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irresponsible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of you know how much clients ride you to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deliver, even clients who don't pay. Especially these ones. Now imagine a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> client paying 9b! I am always amused at how much slack we want to cut guys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who undercut us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, back to issue at hand. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Mwagiru, can you lead a virtual team to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conceptualize a proper voting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Hans, the doc you posted shows the RFP as of Dec. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With screenshots from both mobile and desktop apps. This means the system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had already been developed. So what is the point of failure? If we say the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure is not in transmission but rather in processing, does that mean the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data is already at IEBC servers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would be the technological reason for the system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop processing (this is a very ambiguous term). Data visualization is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being done by google from IEBC servers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what exactly is failing? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Shadrack Mwaniki < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Skunks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pole for the delay in results. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the kind of things that make people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspicious and not trust local ICT professionals. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public has no idea if th system is foreign or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local. 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