The advert reads that he is looking for an intern preferably with network/system admin skills. This means he has no intention of teaching the intern. The whole thing wreaks of cheap labor, if you where looking for an intern with no skills, then we would understand the no payment clause.
no actually you're wrong. let me give an example. I am a consultant. I could get a project that I think an intern could learn from maybe designing a network or migrating from one protocol to another eg (ospf to ISIS) or implementing IPv6 for a network. All highly valuable skills and experiences.
I might actually not have money to pay someone, might not even need one but decide to work with an intern with potential that I have identified maybe at one of our meetings for them to get the experience.
I wont get into an argument on what is right or wrong, what I can tell you is THAT experience would be worthwhile, and whether or not I pay the intern I still believe it would do more for them in the future than a paid internship as a guy that pulls cables somewhere. these are just examples.
It is total arrogance to assume you can sit on the sidelines of a debate like this and make judgement. It is very subjective.
gitauOn Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:30 PM, steve kyengo <k.stevo08@gmail.com> wrote:
And if you can't pay an intern then you not in a position of having one
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:10 AM, ThomasI Kibui <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> wrote:
We live in a democratic environment..
Those who can afford and would like to pay the intern.. please feel free to do so...
Those who cannot afford or those who are againist paying the intern for some reason or another .. don't pay and don't feel guilty its your right to do as you please...
simple..On 8 May 2012 09:19, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe if an student comes to your company looking for internship
then it may make sense not to pay him.
But where you actually advertise, and are looking for experience, as
is in this case, then its clear you are not looking for a raw beginner
just so that you can offer him/her training facilities (in which case
you even have a right to charge him)
This is a case where the company is a few hands short for a temporary
yet not fixed period and is seeking to fill that vacancy.
They should consider some sort of stipend. Some might even call it remuneration.
My thoughts
>> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of
On 5/8/12, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am in agreement with Collins & Wash on this - If an internship is required
> for you to complete your studies, then the school should actually give you
> money to complete your internship - I remember way back we were given
> 6,500/- which was never paid back (not a loan). The company is therefore at
> their discretion to pay you. I also remember a company like Kenya Railways
> used to charge the student for internship since they had the best workshops
> in the country and to use it you had to pay them!
> However, as an employer, I also advocate for giving something small - but
> at your discretion and not a right!
>
>
> ./Ok3ch
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Collins Areba
> <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> actually, Internship / attachment is usually a difficult time in a
>> students career especially where (as is the case with most courses) it is
>> an integral part of completing your academic studies. In most instances
>> institutions organize for this, and in our days they even used to arrange
>> for a "stipend" directly with the student.
>>
>> I would however say the "intern" bein looked for by Norman above is
>> actually cheap labour, which could be wrong. Unless of course there is
>> stuff to be learnt thats of a unique and invaluable nature.
>>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM, ndungu stephen
>> <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> @ Collins
>>>
>>> You did not address those who cannot afford.
>>>
>>> I remember during my internship i used to share some of my funds with
>>> the
>>> cleaners when i found them at the bus stop - apparently waiting for 5
>>> bob
>>> fares past 10pm, when the matatu was shouting 30 bob.
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