Well, we are somewhere compared to 10 years ago. 10 years ago java was being developed in the developed countries, Kenya only had Africaonline and comps cost ksh 130,000. 10 years ago groups were developing PHP version 3, PNG format, e.t.c while &quot;software&quot; was a very funny word in Kenya (something to do with discrete wearables  :-) ) <br>
<br>However, on the point of &quot;don&#39;t just stand there do something&quot; Its very true, I have met some truly remarkable developers in Kenya, question is, how do we encourage opensource development more.<br><br>One thing Ive noticed even with open source products in developed nations, most of these projects start out as theses. Linux and Google, being the largest of them all. I also have been to campo and the enthusiasm there for anything, paid or not is very high. <br>
<br>Since we old dogs are looking for the next meal ticket, we can nurture the free and opinionated campus minds to start thinking radically, we can do this by organizing project workshops with campuses and giving them challenges to  build or improve useful software that is currently in use(not just project proporsals), and helping them develop long term business models on the open source products they develop. Now for that I can participate.<br>
<br>My 2 cents <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:59 PM, aki <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:aki275@gmail.com">aki275@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Fully agree with you on this one and my thots excatly. :-)<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Watchman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:skunkingrahim@gmail.com" target="_blank">skunkingrahim@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">notwithstanding that this could turn ugly, i have a strong inclination to what Aki&#39;s on about. And yeah, i&#39;m agreeing with him fully if he&#39;s saying that we need to start becoming a &quot;Self Sustained&quot; IT Country. <br>

<br>@Aki are these your thoughts?<br><br>Wa.. aaaa.. aaaa  CHHOO man! 
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