the Facebook one works!


On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam,

That link is broken.


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[mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Samuel Waithaka
Sent: 02 December 2009 09:59
To: Skunkworks Forum
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] 'Techies Getting Together' Culture in Kenya

Been following this thread and must commend Murigi and the
contributors on the barcamp idea. I can only look forward...

This is a fact, that we've not learnt how to come together, and I have
personally suffered as a result, together with several pals...

This was a lesson for me and we've since started a more collaborated,
project oriented concept.

We started out on Facebook (http://groups.to/techiepreneur) but will
step up our activities (http://techieprenuer.com)

I believe most Skunks will find this quite relevant.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:23 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Many of us Africans have a major inferiority complex. How does it
>>> manifest? In thinking and treating non African individuals,
organizations
>>> and enterprises better than we do our own.
>>>
>>> Can you imagine someone who grew up hearing nothing good about Africa
>>> thinking an African is worth it? They even wonder why the African is
trying
>>> to impress them so hard when they can tell that African cannot even do
>>> anything good for their fellow African. You yuppies, out there, do not
let
>>> down Kenya like many of us already have. This is your country so Build
it
>>> Up!
>
>
> @Murigi, I'm sure you know the industry better than many and so share
> certain views but let us avoid looking down at ourselves. I think the main
> problem is lack of general direction and I'm convinced that this is
> something that can be changed over time. Your efforts to highlight the
> issues are well appreciated and key too. Things cannot change overnight
but
> as many know events such as Bar Camp/DevCon bring together developers and
> others. Events are quite important to the Kenyan tech calendar, I hope
there
> will be progress towards the 2 next year.
>
> Moving on, I think there others who may consider mine or your contributes
> to threads as Dev bashing or offensive and to be fair to them, they did
not
> create the problems. To me the problems go back to learning centres etc
> which are responsible for the production line errors.
>
> I spent sometime researching Kenyan Devs who are online and the feedback I
> got back from the results is quite confusing. For some reason, SMS based
> programming seems to be driving programmers. As an example, I followed
> Jessica ( Strathmore ) contributes and also found it surprising that
> recently the Elephant foundation used SMS based technology to track an
> elephant. This technology was not developed locally so kind of confusing
> what really is going on. There is much emphasis on SMS based apps. In
short,
> those in the industry need to start sharing the skills in demand over say
eg
> a 3 year period. The Govt and private sector need to do projections of
what
> the market needs. Is it C sharp, java, php, sql etc skills that are in
short
> supply? Without these, there can be no basis on what the future of Kenyan
> software industry can do and everyone can continue with whatever the
market
> trends are. And we are back to the assembly line. The SMS programming apps
> industry grew from what stats? Why is there focus on it? And now the focus
> is on payment gateways, so again market driven. Direction is being driven
by
> short term gains and the dream and pressure to capture, dominate the
market.
> No one to blame for this, look at Safcom and the computer
> industry. Market leaders are setting monopolistic trends, those trends
will
> rub off down the line as it becomes survival.
>
> Its a very complicated subject but I hope small gains made by everyone's
> efforts will go in the right direction. :-)
>
> Rgds.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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