Also consider this point. Panasonic, Siemens, Bell etc telephony devices including all cards are subject to type approvals. Asterisk and cards is a fully functional pabx that works on public pstn networks. And for the clients using these cards, this is where the bad part comes in. Does their equipment/installation comply with type approvals? This exposes risks to the installer/solution provider. On a seperate issue, those that are developers should look into creating a kenyan based solution for Asterisk billing/call management system. Asterisk has a log ( I think asterisk -cvvr ? ) command will provide the call logs, time, number called and duration. Anyone upto setting up a team project while working on this on their own time? I've not touched the raw of asterisk for a long while now, but am urging others who are already in it to sit together with developers and comeup with something. SAS and Billing/Call management will go hand in hand. Rgds.