OMG..............this is Hilarius...........LOL On 10/29/09, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
probably more of them than you had imagined......
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
OMG a loving this thread, so we have real network engineers here!!!
./Chuks
On 10/29/09, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Guys,
I have read this thread like I was witnessing a defense case on a humorous kenyan court. @Simon if you have time use either and walk the talk yourself now that you have received the information.
I really like the thread now that I know there a quite a few guys who know their networks well here, at some time I thot his forum is full of developers we should now really contributed. I got my own mind bogging issues but I shall start a new thread on it later.
Best luck Simon, hope to hear ur view soon.
Regards Themburu
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such
a line?
call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer
== Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# ==
does this look like calculus to you?
I beg your pardon.. was that directed at me? If so, then forgive me but I don't remember talking about IPSec and VPN tunnel... I was talking about loading IOS images into a simulated router. And the activist bit.. I think you took it a little too seriously... it was in line with that rat joke. Anyway, sorry for stirring your anger/strong reaction, but I think I thanked all for their input and settled for GNS3. But that doesn't mean Packet Tracer is bad, in fact, I believe it's very good. So I hope we are all a happy lot now.
Enjoy your lunch :)
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
> Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). > Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured > images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" > amounts > to 1% of the simulator's functions. > > With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot > the > router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove > the > faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers > to > another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a > real > boy. > > regards, > frank > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia < > simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully >> simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring >> them? I >> doubt, but not so sure... >> >> >> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >> >>> No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is >>> an >>> example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew >>> what >>> seck9 >>> means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent >>> and >>> let me >>> baptize you in the name of "confi t"... >>> >>> == >>> System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) >>> Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. >>> >>> Self decompressing the image : >>> ########################################################################## >>> [OK] >>> Restricted Rights Legend >>> >>> Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is >>> subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph >>> (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted >>> Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph >>> (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer >>> Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013. >>> >>> cisco Systems, Inc. >>> 170 West Tasman Drive >>> San Jose, California 95134-1706 >>> >>> >>> >>> Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), >>> Version >>> 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) >>> Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport >>> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. >>> Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team >>> Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50 >>> >>> >>> This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to >>> United >>> States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer >>> and >>> use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply >>> third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use >>> encryption. >>> Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for >>> compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product >>> you >>> agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are >>> unable >>> to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product >>> immediately. >>> >>> A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may >>> be >>> found at: >>> http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html >>> >>> If you require further assistance please contact us by sending >>> email >>> to >>> export@cisco.com. >>> >>> >>> Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. >>> Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E >>> M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 >>> 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) >>> 191K bytes of NVRAM. >>> 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) >>> Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), >>> Version >>> 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) >>> Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport >>> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. >>> Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team >>> >>> >>> --- System Configuration Dialog --- >>> >>> Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no >>> >>> >>> Press RETURN to get started! >>> >>> >>> >>> Router>en >>> Router# >>> Router# >>> == >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image >>>> and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer? >>>> >>>> >>>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> hi >>>>> >>>>> Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than >>>>> enough. >>>>> If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go >>>>> for >>>>> GNS3. Do >>>>> you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is >>>>> not >>>>> available in packet tracer? >>>>> >>>>> Packet tracer: let us get to command line >>>>> >>>>> - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing >>>>> - static routes >>>>> - dynamic routing - except BGP >>>>> - multilayer switching >>>>> - IPsec VPNs >>>>> - ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> === >>>>> Router(config)#rout >>>>> Router(config)#router ? >>>>> eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) >>>>> ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) >>>>> === >>>>> >>>>> Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun >>>>> is >>>>> dangerous to a toy boy. >>>>> >>>>> For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and >>>>> Redistribution (used GNS3) >>>>> If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use >>>>> GNS3. >>>>> >>>>> kind regards, >>>>> frank >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Francis, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, >>>>>> it's >>>>>> a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, >>>>>> which I'm >>>>>> struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Me. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> frank >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >>>>>>> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Sir, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the >>>>>>>> following >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>>>>>>> 3700, and >>>>>>>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees >>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The other option is to give more details on what you are >>>>>>>> trying >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i >>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> 1700 can also do that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michuki. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> aki wrote: >>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject >>>>>>>> >>> router. >>>>>>>> I wish to >>>>>>>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a >>>>>>>> purchase. Is there such >>>>>>>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? >>>>>>>> >>> On >>>>>>>> google, all I >>>>>>>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, >>>>>>>> >>> which >>>>>>>> >>> I >>>>>>>> think are not >>>>>>>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Kindly help. 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