Guys

I have received threats from Zain and Safaricom. First Safaricom I went to Kisumu with my new Modem and Laptop and lost my modem in the hotel. I locked the Laptop to the Metal Table and so it couldn't move from the table but lost the Modem.

It was postpaid with Safaricom and I think I was just on the 3rd month of using it. I called Safaricom to stop the line since I have lost it and I will activate it after buying new modem. They told me that tehy dont do such a thing and I have to pay for the full use every month until the next year is over. 

I went to Moi Avenue and demanded to speak to the manager. She couldn't listen to me and was very rude. I resorted to facebook and social media and told Safaricom that they cannot front an argument that I loose my car through carjacking then I have to pay for full tank petrol which I am not using. Thats robbery and they should be ready to start recovering the money.

A guy called Abraham called me in a record two hours and told me that teh line had been terminated. I have not gone back to claim the line and wont ever go to claim it because that was robbery

May and June I was out of Kenya and so was not using my Zain and they were sending lots of threats and SMSes including the head of Data called Eric Natembea calling and issuing threats. I wont pay until when the May and JUne fees are waived or else I wont pay.

We must resist useless and exploitative contracts

MO

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
check one of the threads by thigiri. he implies that he was threatened.

On 16/08/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have checked the stockskenya thread, but it does not show any threat he
> received from Zain. It therefore does not substantiate the allegation. The
> reason I'm curious about this, is there is no corporate in today's dynamic
> market that can afford to issue threats to its customers. And since Zain is
> not the most preferred telco due to "stiff competition", they would not
> afford to issue threats to a customer.
>
> I guess $afaricom would not also threaten a customer, though a leading and
> most profitable company in Kenya!
>
>
>
> 2009/8/15 Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
>
>> here is the stockskenya thread :
>> http://www.stockskenya.com/newsite/stkForumTopic.aspx?stk=1005&top=11202
>>
>> 2009/8/14 Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>
>>
>> I did sign the contract after reading the T & C.
>>>
>>> Never have I received a threat even when I go to the CC or send an email
>>> bursting with anger. Actually, the CC do call me back when I address an
>>> issue which is against the T&C I signed or even when experiencing some
>>> technical hitches!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/8/14 kennedy kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> @Solomon,
>>>>
>>>> There's a pal of mine who's using it and he's never paid I thnk since
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> and he says there was a contract for 2yrs within which you are bound to
>>>> use the modem....
>>>>
>>>> Did you sign any contarct when you got the modem??? after reading the T
>>>> &
>>>> C???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~K-Tatu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Solomon Mburu
>>>> <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it on Bulletin Board?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just Curious
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/8/14 Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a guy on the stocks kenya forum who said on a thread that he
>>>>>> had received threats after he pulled out of a contract from customer
>>>>>> care. At that time zain edge was painfully slow even on phone. It was
>>>>>> after they got a few million customers from their infamous vuka
>>>>>> tariff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/08/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > @ Kioko,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >  Oh, and there was that time that they threatened customers who quit
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >> contract when Zain internet slowed down to a crawly 2kbps.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > When was this? What were the details of the threat? Update pls.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I can't recall a time Zain issued threats to its customers who
>>>>>> > wanted
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > stop using it's services. It is important to get the facts right.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I understand all the telcos have their shortcomings, and when In
>>>>>> > this
>>>>>> forum,
>>>>>> > we highlight on the challenges we get on our respetive telcos and
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > respose is -ve or +ve, depending on how factual our statements are!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Cheers
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 13/08/2009, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> > Kioko
>>>>>> >> > Zain has a Ksh. 2995 fror unlimited data bandwidth per month so
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> >> > join
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> yu is so on newskies. As for Zain, give me a reason why i should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> >> >> philanthropic enough to fork out Kshs. 10 bob per MB for data.
>>>>>> Not
>>>>>> >> >> when am still sane...
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> On 13/08/2009, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> > EDGE <
>>>>>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >  bandwidth 236.8 kbit/s
>>>>>> >> >> > so that's up to 30KB/s data transfer - pretty sure that's
>>>>>> better than
>>>>>> >> >> > pre-seacom. On a phone that should be reasonable.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > Josiah Mugambi
>>>>>> >> >> > +254 738 504418
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > http://blog.josiahmugambi.com
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > * SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info.
>>>>>> >> >> > * Get a .ke  @  2900/- a year VAT incl. @ pct.co.ke
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Billy <billyx5@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> Am curious. Seeing as Zain doesnt have 3G, will it make much
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> >> >> >> difference in terms of speeds whether they are on Seacom or
>>>>>> not?
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> -Billy
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> 2009/8/13 Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> I like the way Dan has of late, been responding to queries
>>>>>> regarding
>>>>>> >> >> >> KDN
>>>>>> >> >> >>> with gusto.
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>> Keep it up bwana!
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>> 2009/8/13 <dan.kwach@kdn.co.ke>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>  Hi Kennedy,
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> We have had quite an issue with KDN fiber link between
>>>>>> Mariakani
>>>>>> >> and
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Mombasa affecting the Seacom trunk link to Msa from
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Nairobi.
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> This is due for a permanent fix tonight since we have to
>>>>>> replace
>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> faulty section of the cable.
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> NB- We are working hard to set up the redundant link to Msa
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> >> reduce
>>>>>> >> >> on
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> service disruptions.
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Rgds,
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Dan O.Kwach,
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Kenya Data Networks.
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> *From*: kennedy kariuki
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> *Date*: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:04:59 +0300
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> *To*: <dan.kwach@kdn.co.ke>; Skunkworks forum<
>>>>>> >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> *Subject*: Re: [Skunkworks] SwiftGlobal now on seacom and
>>>>>> Zain
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> too?
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> Kwach,
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> why does it keep going down???jana n at sm point
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> leo....just
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> few
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> minutes though...
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> ~K-Tatu
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, <dan.kwach@kdn.co.ke>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Kennedy,
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> You got it right. They both are on Seacom courtesy of KDN.
>>>>>> So is
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> everyone else on Seacom so far!
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Rgds,
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Dan O.Kwach,
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Kenya Data Networks.
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> From: kennedy kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:48:12
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> To: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SwiftGlobal now on seacom and
>>>>>> Zain too?
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Science:
>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> kazi:
>>>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> Science:
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>>>>>> >> >> >>>>> kazi:
>>>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> >> >>>> kazi:
>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>>>> >> >> >>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>> --
>>>>>> >> >> >>> Solomon Mburu
>>>>>> >> >> >>> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi
>>>>>> >> >> >>> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will
>>>>>> graze
>>>>>> >> all
>>>>>> >> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >> >> >>> same way to the side of a hill!
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>> AND
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of
>>>>>> ambiguous
>>>>>> >> >> >>> generosity!
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>> Sent from Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> >> >>> Science:
>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>>>>>> >> >> >>> kazi:
>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> >> >> Science:
>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>>>>>> >> >> >> kazi:
>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> --
>>>>>> >> >> with Regards:
>>>>>> >> >> Find out how you can own your own TFT T.V. at a fraction of the
>>>>>> cost on
>>>>>> >> my
>>>>>> >> >> blog:
>>>>>> >> >> http://gramware.blogspot.com
>>>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> >> Science:  http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>>>>>> >> >> kazi:
>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> with Regards:
>>>>>> >> Find out how you can own your own TFT T.V. at a fraction of the
>>>>>> >> cost
>>>>>> on my
>>>>>> >> blog:
>>>>>> >> http://gramware.blogspot.com
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> Science:  http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>>>>>> >> kazi:     http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Solomon Mburu
>>>>>> > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi
>>>>>> > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze
>>>>>> all the
>>>>>> > same way to the side of a hill!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > AND
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous
>>>>>> generosity!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> with Regards:
>>>>>> Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots,  all at my blog:
>>>>>> http://gramware.blogspot.com
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>>>>>> kazi:     http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Solomon Mburu
>>>>> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi
>>>>> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
>>>>>
>>>>> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all
>>>>> the same way to the side of a hill!
>>>>>
>>>>> AND
>>>>>
>>>>> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous
>>>>> generosity!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Solomon Mburu
>>> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi
>>> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
>>>
>>> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all
>>> the
>>> same way to the side of a hill!
>>>
>>> AND
>>>
>>> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous
>>> generosity!
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Nairobi, Kenya
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> with Regards:
>>
>> Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots,  all at my blog:
>> http://gramware.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Solomon Mburu
> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi
> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
>
> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the
> same way to the side of a hill!
>
> AND
>
> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
>
>
>
> Sent from Nairobi, Kenya
>


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