Or you could get a macbook, its both stylish and quite powerful (1066MHz FSB, 2GB DDR3, 2.26GHz Core 2 Duo and NVIDIA Geforce 9400M with 256MB of RAM), and at USD$999, it aint that expensive :-)
http://www.apple.com/macbook/
Knw what, i actually decided to go wit the in4 n the advice, so yes,
am going wit the unstylish, heavy but efficent laptop. Maybe later i
will find out just how far i can push the atom processor. Thanks 4 the
input y'all :-)
On 11/3/09, Andrew Wachira <washirah@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Eva.. don't say you weren't warned! :)
> & hey, try using Eclipse for Java development, it's super optimised! :)
>
> 2009/11/3 Eva Kimathi <evakimathi@gmail.com>
>
>> yeah!!! i agree..! i spent the better part of jana trying to figure out a
>> way i could sort that na hakuna...unless i wait for the N490 duo core
>> atom,
>> which i wont do so yeah! laptop here i come!
>>
>> Thanks y'all for indulging me though!!!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Andrew Wachira <washirah@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @Eva
>>>
>>> The machine has an FSB of 533Mhz!!
>>> That is quite slow for System Bus speeds. It wouldn't matter how much RAM
>>> you installed, the poor thing would still crawl!
>>>
>>> FSB is very important also if you want to purchase a good laptop. Please
>>> tafuta a little harder (833Mhz or higher) and plan to invest a little
>>> more
>>> if you want to use the laptop for Java dev!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> 2009/11/2 Eva Kimathi <evakimathi@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> true dat....i cut my losses..grit my theeth and ordered a kawaida
>>>> laptop!!! Thanks though!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, for Oracle and Java you will be pushing it too far. A basic load
>>>>> of
>>>>> those Frameworks into RAM and into the page file basically takes a huge
>>>>> chunk out of your memory. Now virtual Memory isn't RAM and really RAM
>>>>> is
>>>>> actually what you need to increase. Virtual memory is in the simplest
>>>>> terms
>>>>> space on your hard disk that's reserved for use as RAM. Virtual Memory
>>>>> is so
>>>>> much slower than RAM and the type pf hardisk and can slow things
>>>>> further. so
>>>>> basically without going into details you basically need hardware
>>>>> upgrades on
>>>>> the Netbook if you want to heack Oracle. The bottom line is, Netbooks
>>>>> are
>>>>> not designed for what you want to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> SKYPE: sobbayi
>>>>> US: +1 202 297 6831
>>>>> +1 202 470 0525
>>>>> KE: +254 722 627 691
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blog.sobbayi.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Eva Kimathi" <evakimathi@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 3:59:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] developers and atom processors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hey!
>>>>> I read somewhere that i can increase the virtual memory to 2gig!
>>>>> wouldn't that help?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Eva Kimathi < evakimathi@gmail.com >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> well....bludgers indeed! thanks for the in4 though...back to the
>>>>> drawing
>>>>> board!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:41 AM, wesley kirinya <
>>>>> kiriinya2000@yahoo.com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately no. The only way to get a bigger cache is to get another
>>>>> processor. It might sound too restrictive but the processor needs to
>>>>> work as
>>>>> efficiently as it can and it might not do so if other items e.g. the OS
>>>>> can
>>>>> affect it's operations. (The operations would be less efficient because
>>>>> the
>>>>> processor will have to check whether it's state has been changed)
>>>>>
>>>>> Using Java and Oracle 10g on that processor might be a frustrating
>>>>> experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check the processor specs for Orancle 10g to be sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Mon, 11/2/09, Eva Kimathi < evakimathi@gmail.com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Eva Kimathi < evakimathi@gmail.com >
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] developers and atom processors
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Forum" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >
>>>>> Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 8:43 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you are right...
>>>>> i was wondering though, is there no way to work around the cache
>>>>> size...like in linux where you can give larger swap space?
>>>>> these are the specs of the machine 'Intel® Atom™ Processor N270,
>>>>> 1.6GHz,
>>>>> 533MHz FSB, 512KB L2 Cache '
>>>>>
>>>>> what can i do to optimize it...coz i may have to work with it
>>>>> eventually
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, wesley kirinya <
>>>>> kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Check the hardware requirements for that software. The other factor is
>>>>> how heavy your software development is. Java IDEs (and I believe the
>>>>> same
>>>>> for Oracle Forms) take up a good chunk of memory and processor. Other
>>>>> normal
>>>>> software on your system e.g. browsers also take a lion's share of your
>>>>> system's resources, and it's likely that such software will be running
>>>>> the
>>>>> same time as your development tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides the processor speed, the L1, L2, ... cache size of the
>>>>> processor
>>>>> is important, the Atom has 512KB-1MB which is rather small. This issue
>>>>> might
>>>>> come up in a memory intensive application. Anyway if you're workin on
>>>>> normal
>>>>> applications then this may not be an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> A Core Duo or Core 2 Duo or similar AMD processors might be better for
>>>>> middle to long term development.
>>>>>
>>>>> O_O
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Mon, 11/2/09, Eva Kimathi < evakimathi@gmail.com > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Eva Kimathi < evakimathi@gmail.com >
>>>>> Subject: [Skunkworks] developers and atom processors
>>>>> To: "Skunkworks forum" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >
>>>>> Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 7:48 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Help!
>>>>> I am thinking of getting the lg x120 netbook that safaricom is
>>>>> offering.
>>>>> I have read reviews on it from the internet (for the netbook) and i was
>>>>> impressed. I may have all the info i need for it except one mega
>>>>> factor...can the atom processor work with oracle forms 10g? the ram is
>>>>> 1gig
>>>>> and the processor is 1.6ghz. the ram i can work with but i aint too
>>>>> sure
>>>>> about the processor.
>>>>> i figure that for kawaida java development, i may use the jcreator coz
>>>>> its relatively lightweight.
>>>>> anybody out there with helpful info?
>>>>>
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