@Saidi - I think you are too obsessed with google to argue logically on anything else, you need to try and see from all perspectives. ./Ok3ch On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
And now this: http://goo.gl/ The juggernaut keeps on rolling. Saidi
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:54 PM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Aside from the excitement of a new smartphone, does it worry you that one company is "all over the place"?
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
I don't think thats a denial, actually very close to admiting it
2009/12/14 saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com>
That's what they all say ;) Apple denied the iPhone... until they announced it.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
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2009/12/14 saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com>
> > No other company with maybe the exception of Microsoft has changed > the computing landscape the way Apple has, Google does not even come close. > > There is a big difference with having potential and being there. > Apple is there, and Google has potential. And that's all.
Interesting comment. You seem to imply that it's not even a battle at all. Google it and you'll find that quite a number think it's a battle of the titans. Question is: why is Microsoft missing in action? What tricks does Steve Ballmer (or whoever succeeds him once the board fires him) have up his sleeve? Google's focus isn't really search, it is advertising. They're just good at leveraging search to increase their ad revenue. There's a lot about Google's practices that I don't like, privacy being top of the list. I am, however, a fan of some of their core technology (I've posted before about Peter Norvig's talks on big data and big possibilities). Question: what other tech company has successfully implemented an ad-supported freemium model on a scale as large as Google's? - Email: remember how much space Hotmail and Yahoo used to give users before Gmail upped the game? - Maps: remember how crappy Mapquest was before Google Maps came in? And that's even before you consider StreetView. - Maps: anything remotely resembling Google Earth, at that cost? - GPS navigation: turn-by-turn for free? - Research: online search was mostly considered a "done deal" by the major contenders (Yahoo, Inktomi, etc etc) before Google upended everything with a radically new system (which also included image search) - Data-mining: the standard wisdom relied on a small corpus of text to build complex, and hopefully complete, models on. Peter Norvig advocates huge corpuses and largely dispenses with complex/complete models (whether in translation, spell-check, entity-recognition etc). - Photos: anything remotely resembling Picasa, for the price and features? This isn't really about Google, but rather about the success of a very different business model on a humongous scale. Unfortunately, we don't seem to realize the privacy implications to the consumer.... until it's too late. Previously, most of these apps would have cost you dollars. Now they cost advertisers dollars and you don't pay any cash. Of course, you pay in other ways (the information you give, the loss of privacy etc etc). The bigger worry is in a single player having sizeable influence in such a wide-spectrum of technological life. For now Google may be a benevolent monopoly, but for how long? Saidi
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: > > It is also wrong to say Apple has lesser leverage than Google. I > think Apple far has more clout that Google, stretching for desktop computers > to laptops, iTunes, iPod and the iPhone. > > Google is king in search, and that is not disputed, but Apple is king > in desktops, laptops, operating systems, iTunes, iPod and the iPhone and > Google is the one playing catch up right now. No other company with maybe > the exception of Microsoft has changed the computing landscape the way Apple > has, Google does not even come close. > > There is a big difference with having potential and being there. > Apple is there, and Google has potential. And that's all. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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