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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Orange Down or just me? (Odhiambo Washington)
  2. Re: <OT>: End of free accounts on
     http://dn.nationmedia.com/??? (Odhiambo Washington)
  3. Re: <OT>: End of free accounts on
     http://dn.nationmedia.com/??? (Dennis Kioko)
  4. Re: Fw: Fw: DSTV Equipment for Sale (Andrew Kerich)
  5. Re: Fw: ANNOUNCEMENT: REFLECTIONS WITH MICHAEL JOSEPH -
     20/10/2010 @iHub(Please share and forward) (Barrack Otieno)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:57:34 +0300
From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Orange Down or just me?
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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Erick Njenga <eriknjenga@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's back now. But the customer care line never works.
>
>
I tested early morning and it was back!

Customer Care lines (121) does work sometimes. I once found a very helpful
folk on that number. I think what happens with service providers is that
whenever they have a problem, they jam the CC lines. Happens with Access
Kenya all the time.


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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 09:07:01 +0300
From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] <OT>: End of free accounts on
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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:

> Generally people globally have refused to pay for online newspapers-even
> people like time magazine are struggling. So the papers have to go after
> advertisers....im not sure kenyans(who generally are averse to paying even
> for legal music and movies) will break the global trend.
>
>
Hmm, this explains why I saw, in a certain country, newspapers being
distributed for free, and full of adverts. At first it was so hard to
understand why people were being "begged" to take newspapers.

Anyway, some guys can always pay, and then share the login credentials with
others. I suggest all those who have bought iPads to also go ahead and pay
up the subscriptions, then share the login details - which I want to believe
is not illegal. It's just "sharing":)


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 09:11:29 +0300
From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] <OT>: End of free accounts on
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Okechukwu, the iPad costs like 100 K. the mass is not enough to warrant
Nation selling digital papers on them. I was looking at a mobile digital
edition where u pay for the content, not the mobile main site.

the issue with newspapers and magazines is Web 2.0. we are coming a at a
point where news will be crowd-sourced and marketers are turning to social
media for advertising and probably Lifestyle marketing (watch a movie called
"The Joneses" for a demonstration of how lifestyle marketing works. )
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 09:14:09 +0300
From: Andrew Kerich <andykerich@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Fw: Fw: DSTV Equipment for Sale
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Isn't that the same price as a new set from multichoice?

Kerich.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:12 PM, eric muiruri <erikipjay@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: eric muiruri <erikipjay@yahoo.com>
> To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
> Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 6:08:42 PM
> Subject: [Skunkworks] Fw: DSTV Equipment for Sale
>
> The DSTV model is shown here below:
>
> Decoder- DSD 1110
> Dish 90cm
> Time used- 1 Year.
> Price - 15k.
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: eric muiruri <erikipjay@yahoo.com>
> To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
> Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 5:53:28 PM
> Subject: [Skunkworks] DSTV Equipment for Sale
>
> Hi good people,
>
> I have a DSTV complete equipment for sale at only 15k.
> Anyone interested hit back at me.
> Cheers.
>
> Eric Kiruthi.
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:14:33 +0200
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Fw: ANNOUNCEMENT: REFLECTIONS WITH MICHAEL
       JOSEPH - 20/10/2010 @iHub(Please share and forward)
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Well, its a step in the right direction though i am sure there is something
to learn from the initiative despite the shortcomings.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com> wrote:

> David thanks very well for putting what I was thinking in a less abrasive
> manner than I would have. After reading the mail it sounded to me more like
> a press statement than a candid discussion. Personally Im wondering what
> happened to the spirit of being frank and open. Anyway I guess I wasnt the
> target audience
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Al Kags,
>>
>> Here are my thoughts on the reflections with MJ initiative.
>>
>> First of all, it is good to see the "townhall chats" format talks at the
>> iHub go from strength to strength. First with Russell Southwood and now MJ.
>>
>> Having said that and reading a little deeper into the email I grew weary.
>> Their is promise of candid discussion, promise of MJ "sharing widsom". The
>> problem is the format seems more about MJ sharing wisdom than any candid
>> discussion.
>>
>> Pre-selected audience, pre-selected questions, moderators can shut down
>> anyone at anytime, questions have to be submitted and then only the
>> moderators (and let us not be naive - Safaricom PR) choose which questions
>> MJ gets to see leave alone answer.
>>
>> What is this? A political campaign or a discussion with a by all accounts
>> a strong and visionary business leader? MJ is a lion of business in Africa.
>> He is a heavy weight.  There is nothing the audience can throw at him that
>> he probably has not faced before. Why the kiddie gloves, why the cotton
>> wool, why sanitize the proceedings so much as to completely remove value?
>> Why give the impression that MJ can not take some heat? OK there is a small
>> fear that 90% of the time will be taken up by questions on Mobitela. SO BE
>> IT. That is the big unanswered question. However, after 2 or 3 questions, I
>> think the audience will get tired of the those questions and move on.
>>
>> They way this "invitation" is loaded it sounds like 2 hours of hearing
>> questions like "What did you mean by peculiar calling habits" or "How come
>> you run the marathon? That is so wow!" quickly followed by tweets full of
>> LOL.
>>
>> If this was the bed in which the iHub had to lie in order to get MJ then
>> it was the wrong bed to get into. The iHub, Skunkworks-KE, etc are
>> institutions with reputations for pushing the edge, for working out answers,
>> for breaking with the mould. This MJ talk looks like something that was
>> planned for KICC with a PS as a moderator with selected civil servants +
>> media as the audience and has only moved to iHub for the coolness factor
>> that iHub brings to it.
>>
>> In one sentence, MJ can handle his own, he does not any of us to fight his
>> corner in his last proper interview in Kenya.
>>
>> Of course, you are all free to respectfully and passionately disagree!
>>
>> Daudi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 October 2010 09:49, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, did anyone here notice this?
>>>
>>> Al.
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: * Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Fri, 1 Oct 2010 20:54:37 +0300
>>> *To: *alkags<alkags@gmail.com>
>>> *Subject: *ANNOUNCEMENT: REFLECTIONS WITH MICHAEL JOSEPH - 20/10/2010
>>> @iHub (Please share and forward)
>>>
>>> *ANNOUNCEMENT: REFLECTIONS WITH MICHAEL JOSEPH
>>> OCTOBER 20, 2010 (1.30PM-4PM)*
>>> *AT *iHub_ Nairobi (Bishop Magua Centre, Ngong' Road)*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> The*  <http://ihub.co.ke/>*iHub_ Nairob <http://goog_2137745993/>*i<http://ihub.co.ke/> and
>>> the *Elimisha_us initiative <http://elimisha.us/> *are pleased to
>>> announce that Michael Joseph, the CEO of Safaricom Ltd, who is due to retire
>>> on November 1, 2010 will come to the *iHub_ Nairobi to meet with young
>>> techies, entrepreneurs and tech creatives and reflect on various issues
>>> including his last decade at the helm of the most successful company in East
>>> Africa.
>>>
>>> In a candid discussion (just ten days before his retirement), Mr. Joseph
>>> is expected to share the wisdom gathered in his many years as a technology
>>> leader and his decade at Safaricom with young future technology leaders who
>>> are on the rise today. Among the issues that he may cover in his honest
>>> reflections are - his experience setting up and running Safaricom, the
>>> values that have driven him, his views on Kenya's ICT development and its
>>> future direction and innovation.
>>>
>>> In addition, as *October 20th 2010 is Heroes day*, the young developers,
>>> bloggers, tech creatives and entrepreneurs, will toast to the success of
>>> this leader, who through his visionary leadership at Safaricom has made
>>> significant contributions to the development of the opportunities they have
>>> today.
>>>
>>> *FORMAT:*
>>>
>>> The event will be an *Invite-Only* moderated "town hall" discussion for
>>> which participants will apply for invitation.  Michael speak for some
>>> minutes and then allow for questions in a moderated fashion.  In order to
>>> organise a high quality event, *only 60 *young bloggers, developers,
>>> tech creatives and entrepreneurs will have the opportunity to be in the
>>> room. The event will *however be recorded thanks to support by Nokia and
>>> Thellesi Media *and possibly* live streamed online with support from
>>> Safaricom Ltd.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> All interested participants (young bloggers, developers, tech creatives
>>> and entrepreneurs) will read more information on *the Elimisha_Us
>>> initiative <http://elimisha.us/> and register their Applications for
>>> Invitation. Because of the high demand in such an initiative, all
>>> interested participants are encouraged to read the rules of engagement on
>>> the website before applying for their invitation. A panel appointed by
>>> *iHub_ and Elimisha_Us will review the applications and invite the
>>> applicants. Invitation to this event is entirely at the discretion of
>>> this panel. *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Key Information*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Date: October 20th 2010*
>>> *Time: Strictly 1.30pm*
>>> *Place: *iHub_ Nairobi*
>>> *Applications for Entry: http://elimisha.us*
>>> *Enquiries: enq@elimisha.us*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
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