FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: anthony okulo <aokulo@africaonline.co.ke> Date: Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:12 PM Subject: RE: [Skunkworks] IP Law To: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Hey Brian I would love to attend a seminar on IP and make a presentation. Just let me know where and when. Regards Tony *Okulo & Company* *Advocates* *13th Floor, Landmark Plaza* *Argwings Kodhek Road* *Hurlingham* *PO Box 856-00606* *Nairobi* *Kenya* *Telephone: 3673004* *Fax: 3673232* *From:* Brian Munyao Longwe [mailto:blongwe@gmail.com] *Sent:* 24 November 2010 16:49 *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Cc:* Okulo Anthony *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] IP Law I hope Anthony Okulo (cc'd) is one of the lawyers who would be invited. He's probably the most experienced IP lawyer we have in the country.... Brian On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:03 PM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote: I had the previledge to attend a talk by an IP lawyer from NY. She's looked into the IP situation in developing countries like India and Nigeria. Basically it comes down to this: 1. IP is complicated (that's why you even see big companies in fights), expensive and takes long to be in effect. 2. IP protection is not for an idea, it's for an implementation that embodies the idea. 3. IP needs to be filed in each country/region where u want to seek protection. 4. Even if you have not filed an IP, but someone else implements your idea and files an IP, you still have a case if you can sufficiently proove that your idea was stolen by the person who implemented it. 5. In the case above, if you worked for a company and used their resources to create something, then your employer has a good case to have the IP. 6. Most IPs that have been filed are not used in anything i.e. they're just sitting on paper. So think well before spending resources in getting an IP. 7. When you file for an IP you have to clearly state what your invention is. IP officers will compare what you say against existing IPs to determine if you can actually file an IP. You will be issued with a document for your pending IP. 8. It's up to you to lookout for the mis-use of your IP. There is no special international police. 9. Copyright, Trademarks and IPs each have a different purpose. Copyright doesn't need you to do anything special, just put a copyright sign on your work. This is the same advice you will get from the Copyright office in Kenya. Trademarks blah blah blah... 10. If someone uses your IP without your consent, consider settling the case. I hope the above gives some idea of how large the IP Elephant is. If you want to protect your idea, ask the other party if they can sign an NDA and the NDA should prohibit them from implementing what you tell them. If they don't agree then you better be the only one who has the key that makes the machine work i.e. they can build the machine but it might not work without your magic key. If you can't identify the magic key in your invention then IMHO you're not ready to commercialize your invention. And really think about it. Why would someone call you for a meeting, ask you irrelevant details about your work and refuse to sign an NDA? That should instantly raise a flag. O_O --- On *Wed, 11/24/10, Duggan Kim <mdkimani@gmail.com>* wrote: From: Duggan Kim <mdkimani@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IP Law To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 9:54 AM I would love to hear what they have to say about software licencing, software patents, and copyright laws. It is a web of confusing terms and legal crap when for example you are advised that building your own software whilst working for a software firm gives all copyright and patent rights to your employer. What is even more confusing is organizations patenting or copyrighting open source projects! I need help understanding scenarios like that of Oracle and Google over Android. regards. On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, I know a couple of IP and Commercial Lawyers... Together with @James Muendo's contacts, I'm sure we can bring 3-5 of these for a workshop sometime soon? What questions would the Skunkworks team like to ask? What would you like to know... An agenda of sorts is needed before we organize it. Thanks, -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ | _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke *Brian Munyao Longwe* *Group Chief Technology Officer* Kenya: +254 722 518 744 Burundi: +257 79 322 888 <<< current location! 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