On 05/12/2010, Watchman <
skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
> @David.
>
> Agree with you,however i'm more keen on understanding whether we are
> actually acquiring more information and growing, or are we retaining only
> bits of information instead of learning. Yes. The internet has truly
> transformed what we know as information retrieval. We have everything at our
> disposal, yet statistically, we are not as intelligent as we should be.
>
> According to the 2008 report information Behavior of the researcher of the
> Future, commissioned by the British library and the joint Information
> Systems Committee: *" Deep log studies show that, from undergraduates to
> professors, people exhibit a strong tendency toward shallow, horizontal,
> 'flicking' behavior in digital libraries. Society is dumbing down."*
>
> Now, their question is similar to what i am saying which is, what are we
> doing, are we reading and learning or are we simply referencing and leaving?
> granted, we do take a piece of the cake with us but unless i'm mistaken, in
> the yester years, it would be a matter of reading through an entire book,
> gain the knowledge, understanding and the context of the book before writing
> a thesis paper and then citing the reference. Today, i am more than certain
> it is a matter of understanding who wrote the paper / book, get online, read
> the synopsis, get a brief, get information fast and then write your paper
> with citations.
>
> This is not true to 100% of people, it is an example.
>
>
> Watchman.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:51 PM, David Njuguna <
dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does information gotten from watching a 20hour series from a youtube
>> educational playlist from say Stanford channel any less useful than that
>> gotten from reading a book?
>>
>> Man has and will always learn new things to survive. The medium through
>> which the information is received has always changed and will always
>> change.
>> When books were invented man shifted from smoke signals to books. Books
>> are
>> great but at some point man had to let go of the smoke signals.
>>
>> To heat up this discussion up a little, does watching House TV series make
>> us dumb? (As opposed to reading a sci-fi novel). Does the fact that some
>> of
>> these TV shows' scripts are so intensely researched that they even have
>> panels of writers make them better than good old books?
>>
>> D
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Watchman <
skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @Jonas
>>>
>>> "has shifted me from having
>>> to know things to be able to look for things. Being able to recite a
>>> poem or remember an exact quote does not make sense any longer as it
>>> is more important to know how to find this information than it is to know
>>> it"
>>>
>>> Isn't that what i've just advocated against? Does this not mean that what
>>> we are doing encourages us to rely on a non-experiential lifestyle? When
>>> wanting to watch a new movie. What do you do first?
>>>
>>> @Muoki
>>> Cryptic. But true.
>>>
>>> @sospeter
>>>
>>> Compelling argument however when does this stop becoming a reference and
>>> become a lifestyle or moreover a necessary human function? Should it
>>> become
>>> a human function, when does it stop becoming a reference and become an
>>> influence?
>>>
>>> Watchman.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:53 AM, <
sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Watchman,
>>>>
>>>> The internet does all that you have mentioned. It is not necessarily bad
>>>> that one no longer reads books. They still get the information, whether
>>>> it
>>>> is through reading or injecting it into the system.
>>>>
>>>> At the moment, we still read, but not books. Some of us listen too.
>>>>
>>>> Man works through information and the human race will survive through
>>>> getting more information, which will make them come up with different
>>>> ways
>>>> of doing stuff. Remember we started with sticks and stones for tools to
>>>> metal and now plastics and sand and soon graphene....see?
>>>>
>>>> As for schools not having caught up, that will happen soon enough. I'm
>>>> in
>>>> the business of providing a paradigm shift towards IT in schools. If the
>>>> government encourages this, we will get all schools online ama?
>>>>
>>>> My Cents,
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> > Tragic to some. ever heard about someone who had an accident and
>>>> > rather
>>>> > than
>>>> > help, people took out there phones and started recording it. It does
>>>> make
>>>> > us
>>>> > feel like who we are not.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Jonas | Lamu Software <
>>>> >
jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Can only speak for myself but the Internet has shifted me from having
>>>> >> to know things to be able to look for things. Being able to recite a
>>>> >> poem or remember an exact quote does not make sense any longer as it
>>>> >> is more important to know how to find this information than it is to
>>>> >> know
>>>> >> it. A lot of schools have unfortunately not caught up yet.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It is not necessarily a bad thing but people who are not able to make
>>>> >> the shift (learn how to find reliable information) will be left
>>>> behind.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I grew up without television so I still read a lot but only novels
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> tech books.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Don't think the Internet is that much about craving tech, more about
>>>> >> information being freely available.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 12/03/2010 11:45 PM, Watchman wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Every time a new tech launches, Man craves it. Granted it takes a
>>>> while
>>>> >>> to implement for example the automobile transition from Horse and
>>>> >>> Carriage. But once it picks up.. e.g. the iOS devices, Man goes
>>>> >>> GAGA!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> What's the internet doing to us?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Open discussion here.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Is it making us a smarter community? more knowledgeable? more
>>>> >>> intelligent or just more flick information dependent?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The general and most widely used internet terminology i know of
>>>> >>> today
>>>> >>> is.. Google it!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> heck, i use it too. But question is, how many of us actually read a
>>>> >>> book
>>>> >>> in this glorious day of the information highway?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> And yes, i do know it's a friday night.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Watchman.
>>>> >>>
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