The Government here is just a share holder like everyone else. Therefore public will only mean wholly Government controlled, like a parastatal complete with blue plates on the cars. I meant private in the context of the fact that it is privately owned by individuals. I think the gava is no longer the single largest shareholder, having sold out shares to the public. They are controlling I think 35%? On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Ikua,
what makes a firm private, if at all the PS Finance is among the shareholders doesn't that mean it is a public entity? Is KPLC a private firm or a public entity? What logic makes a firm private and public?
Doesn't private mean "free" of government control or shareholding capacity" whether minimal or otherwise?
Zain qualifies as a private firm, since it does not sell shares at the NSE while Safaricom does it.
My logic here is private is an entity which is not controlled by the government directly!
My 05 cents
Solomon Mburu
On 16/04/2009, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
Safaricom is a private entity, not a public entity. They are quite free to employ who they want, qualified or not qualified. They are also free to pay what they want, because its a free economy. If they pay low and don't get the right guys, its their problem. You can only have an issue with them if you are one of the 800 share holders, in which case you are free to rasie that issue with the management who are, as it were, your employees... I am not tetea-ring them here, just stating facts. Ikua.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com wrote:
@ Tito, we were just trying to engage the curious minds on this issue. As a public entity, transparency is what counts in public selection. Having friends working Safaricom does not mean everything is 'nywee.' I agree, negative criticism does not sort things out at all. Thank you for your insights on the thread!
On 16/04/2009, Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
With all due respect Safaricom employs many people - over 500 i think.
While we may agree or not agree with their selection methods, the fact remains that they as an organisation are the employers and are in charge of the selection process..
I have many friends at Safaricom, who got jobs, as a result of adverts in the papers and their websites, and many of them did not know anybody at Safaricom previously.
All in all, when you are a successful company, people will hit you from all sides, even from a HR perspective.
True, Safaricom may need to put their act together to ensure that their selection process is more transparent. Let us engage in meaningful discussions, and encourage others, rather than discourage people from applying for positions at Safaricom.
Tito.
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