@Areba thks for the links. Please summarize because all I see on the chronicle site is people own views. I searched Jane's and nothing came up either. So am a bit confused whether using a hummer or a landrover to assault any location means experts view KDF any more professionals than other foreign trained armies. Like I followed Libyan news and discovered that the small Gadaffi force was really tough force and had it not been for the combined Nato air and sea power, hundreds of Qatar special forces on the ground, French--British--US military advisers, things may have turned out very differently.