@Paul Roy... good stuff. For me I generally avoid being stuck in a rut with syntactic aspects. I like to think of programming more as a thinking game, logic. My personal philosophy on programming is that, if you can think; you can code - if you can think logically, you can probably write pretty good programs. That's why I believe anyone can be a programmer (at the very least)... a little more effort and discipline and you can scale up to real software engineering. :) @Oj Code generation takes the fun and the art out of writing software. It's an art - think of a painter autogenerating a painting... probably would not be as aesthetic :) On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Oj G <ojiwaj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why learn coding when u have code generators all over the place...some lazy developer tells me so.
The optimist sees the doughnut; the pessimist the hole.
--- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] learning programming is annoying To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 3:25 AM
My best bet with coding has always been -
- Know the syntax of the language and compiler instructions - Know how to use the IDE very very well that is if you want to use an IDE - Define a problem you want to solve or a project you want to work on - Start with the UI and continue coding - Everytime you hit a snag, research for a solution - in C# MSDN is still great - Continue optmizing the code and rewriting the methods in conformation to the language
At the end of this project you would have learnt alot and you will be ready to take on the books but this time you will start from page 200+ not from the hallo world
regards, Paul.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:13 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com<http://mc/compose?to=aki275@googlemail.com>
wrote:
this is back! I've moved from books and onto other books. Same story each time : not enough info or same method syntax that really is not what you want. All start with silly hallo world syntaxes that within a chapter or 2 is useless towards writing progs. Eg a good book I read so far ( IMHO ) is visual c# 2008 by John Sharp but by chapter 2 or 3 makes many assumptions. It is amazing how small the code portion becomes if you use correct method syntax and program flow. Why can't book writers use a standard convention of the best ways to write methods, then take it from there. A hallo world method with screen output has no place in this world! %^$%%!!!
Any online college or Uni offering a sane way to learn visual c# you could refer me to? Anyone... :-)
Rgds.
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