In as much as this is non-political forum, its serves no purpose if we continue sitting doing nothing, since we may not have a country to continue with our techie ideologies and forum. @Watchman, lets translate tis into action - I will be willing to help with any form of organization. ./Ok3ch On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I've always wanted to do something about all these. I have a plan, but it might take me close to 30 years to finalize, but until then I will still continue to execute my plan while joining any other Kenya who seriously want a stop to all these nascence.
./Ok3ch
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Collins Areba <castorkenya@gmail.com>wrote:
maybe we can begin with the part that lumumba said AG can do anything, and share it on the web side by side with the edited versions... that would make for good chatter in the week. :-)
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:43 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com>wrote:
Now you are talking guys. Taking to the streets isn't really gonna do anything unless you are talking about a revolution (which if so should sound like a whisper and not shouted out loud here). The government system we have is like a blackmail, the moment you are tricked into letting them in power, they will make use of the police force to molest protesters and nothing will happen after that. But information is power. This is not Martin Luther's era. During those errors, taking to the streets worked because there was physical oppression and a physical uprising would suffice. But what we have here is a psychological torment that can only be dealt with psychologically. They gave us impotent democracy (But it isn't really impotent, we make it impotent by firing blanks when we are given the chance to in the name of trying to get everything for ourselves stupidly and in an uninformed manner) The local media is the first agent to the thriving of their oppression. The media as always is looking for bad stories and they can actually do stuff to make things worse to make more sales. You see, trying to get so much(everything for themselves) at the sacrifice of citizens.
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Collins Areba <castorkenya@gmail.com>wrote:
Haiya! they edited? Social Media is exactly what i had in mind too, but there too its been easy to influence by just creating many many blogs / efforts to water down it all. (like multi party politics in 1992)... Personally im game with something organized, planned and with a clear direction.
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Kago Kagichiri < thekenyanprince@gmail.com> wrote:
We're lucky as Skunkers (and other educated Kenyans) to have the internet, we should use this as a new frontier now that it's clear that the mass media is being influenced, recently citing how they edited out Lumumba saying that the A.G. can frustrate his efforts at will.
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com>wrote:
@Stephen.
Shall i take that as.* i'm done with this nonsense! I'm IN!* ?
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
> @ Watchman / Dennis > > Unfortunately, (and this is my frustration - income earning/job > holding Kenyans are very very very complacent) and like to avoid what we > call "getting into trouble" for their own "safety and the convenience of > self and family" even when they know they are right. > > KENYA TRAFFIC POLICE: > > Case and point, I was doing between 70-80km on the Nakuru-Naivasha > highway when I was pulled along side 10 other Kenyans for "overspeeding" , I > politely explained to the arresting junior officers that I cannot afford to > do the 120km/hr they had pinned on me; and I told them to show me that > speed... > > They took me to their "leader" who was making Kenyans line up on a > receipt book to pay "fines" ;; the leader turned out to be a very rude man > and he shouted at me to shut up and put "5000 shillings on that book, write > my name and go and explain my case to the judge" > > I tried to explain why i cannot do speeds above 100km/hr with my car; > but the big stomach guy could not believe I was arguing with him; and he got > angrier, shoutier, bordering on dangerous. I refused to back down.. and I > said I am not giving him 5000 shillings !! > > I told him to show me the "overspeeding" they were accusing me off; > and he shouted that he is the authority and he knows what he is saying and > with that (they had guns) they took away my insurance and license. > > Other "nice" kenyans witnessing this scene quickly "paid" to avoid > trouble. I managed to convince some retired officer who was driving behind > me that we had better go all the way with this case. We said we had rather > pay 20,000/- shillings on a court of law (cos one will always be found > guilty) rather than give the shouting angry man who was obviously looking > for January school fees... > > He was looking for January school fees because legally, the cash bail > is Ksh. 3000; and as we later found out, the policemen were there illegally > and out of their area of jurisdiction; they had even come with their own > private cars (these cops were very well paid [?]) > > -To cut the story short; the remaining 'niice' kenyans bribed their > way out before we got to the nearest Gilgil police cells. > -Me and the retired government agent found ourselves in a smelly > police cell (the retired government agent got himself a lawyer) > -My folks made a few calls to some government people and the Police > Unit ran away > -Paid 3000/- for bail; which was refunded a few days latter > > The funny thing is that my folks got mad at me for arguing my case; > they said it was better to bribe the police officers and avoid > "inconvenience"... But if the two of us dint take a stand, how many more > Kenyans could have continued being exhorted on those Highway spots on that > first week of January ? > > *NOW IN A PARALLEL KENYAN UNIVERSE:* > > All the 30+ arrested Kenyans could have challenged the police speed > guns and insisted to see their speed (taking into account the doppler effect > of an approaching object and taking into account the minimum braking speed > within 50m from the speed gun holding cop) > > We could have all not given "fines" and we could have ended in the > Gilgil police cells - and paid 3000/- bail, and appeared in a court of law; > and the police men would get nothing ! All taxes, fines would go to the > government. > > And if we persisted with this pattern; policemen would never extort > road side bribes, because they would get nothing ! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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