LOL!!

@Claude, you're trying to crack our ribs, right?

On 12 February 2013 11:37, Claude D'souza <claudedsouza1@gmail.com> wrote:

Ahh yes,the good ol' kenyan way of operating. Given the increasing
value of phones and the data contained I wouldn't mind having that
card to play. Mwangi did you have a particular 'guy' at CID who proved
most accessible and helpful? if so what's the name and number we
should all commit to memory?

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the recent past visiting the CID HQ in Muthaiga with a good amount of
> 'chai' for their motivation got your phone back in 2 weeks. Stealing of
> phones is considered robbery with violence and thus a pretty serious crime.
> I imagine it is not rocket science for the authorities to follow your phone
> as it changes sims and thus establish the transactions going on.
>
> With IMEI changing this will be arguably be harder but most petty thieves
> are unlikley to have advanced knowledge on tinkering with IMEIs. I would go
> with the CID or police if the phone is highly valuable and take some
> motivation with you.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> My point about Samsung was just a clue, and yes, I think it's only Samsung
>> phones that have the feature. If your Samsung is not your choice, then point
>> number 2 applies. Most insurance companies have a Domestic Policy package
>> that can cover everything you own, and electronics live phones, cameras, etc
>> are covered under "all risks". You need to figure out what that terminology
>> stands for but it's what I always count on - If my phone fell and broke into
>> pieces, fell into water and stopped working, got stolen - I get indemnified.
>> The premium is actually quite minimal. Singling it out from among the
>> household items covered, it looks like I pay about 800 to cover a phone
>> worth 32,000.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 February 2013 09:30, Claude D'souza <claudedsouza1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Washington,as much as Samsung makes nice phones I might have my own
>>> preferences,what then? Also what kind of rates are offered,and by who
>>> for insuring said phone? is there anyone out there who's been
>>> successful recovering a stolen/lost phone? And can we all agree that
>>> there is a huge market for these phones given the low prices and easy
>>> access...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Jac <jack.gathoni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Claude
>>> >
>>> > Good question and I think in the lines of creating an independent
>>> > database
>>> > that will keep a list of all blacklisted stolen items and then create
>>> > awareness to the public as well as make the ISPs use it.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > Jackson
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Odhiambo Washington
>>> > <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Claude,
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. Buy Samsung phones - there are those with tracking capability -
>>> >> sending
>>> >> SMS when SIM card is changed
>>> >>     Let me say here and now that I don't trust any Android trackers as
>>> >> they can be circumvented.
>>> >> 2. Take insurance for your phone and stop worrying about theft - or
>>> >> any
>>> >> other damage that renders it useless.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 12 February 2013 09:10, Claude D'souza <claudedsouza1@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> While we're on the subject and knowing full well that we will all
>>> >>> eventually fall victim to the same...what are some of the measures
>>> >>> you
>>> >>> can take for protection and after?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Memusi <tonatech@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> > Naomba Local and Regional OpCos waungane mkono.A mohammed Ali shud
>>> >>> > do
>>> >>> > an
>>> >>> > investigation on this.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Tony Likhanga
>>> >>> > <tlikhanga@gmail.com>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> I agree. Three possibilities:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> 1.  The stolen phones are yet to get a buyer  :)
>>> >>> >> 2.  The stolen phones are now generating revenue for another
>>> >>> >> operator
>>> >>> >> other than the one you are monitoring on
>>> >>> >> 3.  God forbid, the IMEIs of the stolen phones have been tampered
>>> >>> >> with
>>> >>> >> (changed to something that is deemed valid to the local operators)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> The show-stopper in containing handset theft is more
>>> >>> >> operational/regulatory than technical.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> So long as a handset blacklisted on one network can still be used
>>> >>> >> on
>>> >>> >> another regional network, we are in for a looong ride.
>>> >>> >> Simple collaboration between the regional OpCos (sharing of
>>> >>> >> blacklisted
>>> >>> >> IMEIs) will drastically cut down  the market for stolen handsets.
>>> >>> >> But
>>> >>> >> then,
>>> >>> >> it's all about the bottom line... not so?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> PS : Am I misguided to think that the enforcement of the
>>> >>> >> 'fake-phone-switch-off' was superficially done? My guess is that
>>> >>> >> these
>>> >>> >> OpCo's may simply be sniffing out for handsets that bear no IMEI
>>> >>> >> as
>>> >>> >> opposed
>>> >>> >> to doing a comprehensive look-up of the IMEIs that latch onto
>>> >>> >> their
>>> >>> >> network.
>>> >>> >> (GSMA has the full database)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
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