My Bad, it's now trending, build your loops and recursions here ninjas! #KillICTBill, it's a way for it to get media attention before it's quietly passed. rgds *_______________________________________________________________We must Keep on, We can't stop here * On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Aka 36 bloggers ? lol
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:16 PM, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess KillICTBill, may not trend because all Ninjas are away on special mission :)
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On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The CS is well aware of it and doubt he can do anything to the Cartels.
Let's all sign this act ASAP !
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
The cartel business in this country just got a notch higher. So, someone would go to college, pay to study ICT-related courses, come out, look for 46K to pay this cartel before hand to enable him start 'practicing'? I think those behind this ACT should be censored publicly. How did it even get to Parliament? Was it passed through the CS??
On 6 July 2016 at 12:57, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Signed already Wash !
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Meanwhile http://goo.gl/c4XO9X
On 6 July 2016 at 11:28, Oliver Ndegwa via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> I find it odd that the government or whoever the agency drafting > this did not consult widely and they have very narrow thinking. > ICT has been a source of employment for majority of the youth who > could not secure jobs with government and other institutions, they have > build opportunities by developing their own products and services portfolio > which clients are happy with. > You come back and tell us that you want to regulate that and impose > a fee which most of these young stars can not even afford. > > Are you helping or are you making the situation worse, I wanted to > see the following in this; > > 1. Support for start ups and what regulatory framework would be put > into place to enhance these as a possible means of job creation > 2. Professionals protection from unscrupulous customers > 3. code of conduct which all members should subscribe to with proper > guidelines on procedures and compliance > 4. Mechanisms to liberalize the market and give the parties a wide > commercial play filed > 5. have a proper definition of who is an ICT practitioner, is it the > telco, network, software, compliance, security, A+, strategist, designer, > technician. Everyone who does anything mechanical including the electrical > engineers some how interacts with ICT to achieve his perfect service > provision. > > I find this misguided, misinformed, ridiculous, infamous and > retrogressive > #KillICTBILL > > Concerned Captain > > > > Warm Regards, > Oliver Ndegwa > > TPC -0713777001 - intelligent systems for business leaders > > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Tusker 21 via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> This is total B***cr@p creates a lot of barrier to entry for >> people seeking ICT opportunities in any way. >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:20 PM, James Njoroge via skunkworks < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> Looks like someone / some people want to start a cartel in the ICT >>> industry, in my opinion this is total bullshit. I don’t want to come up >>> with an innovative product / service then i have to report to some people. >>> Total nonsense, i only report to the clients / market I’m selling to. >>> >>> On 5 July 2016 at 22:44, Moses Kiragu via skunkworks < >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Isn't this redundant? The communications authority (CA) already >>>> registers telecommunications personnel and operators. Na hii sasa? >>>> On Jul 5, 2016 10:38 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks" < >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Washington for this. >>>>> >>>>> Some preliminary issues on the Bill after reading it: >>>>> 1. There is established an ICT Practitioners Institute >>>>> 2. Information Communication Technology Association of Kenya >>>>> nominates 5 people on the Board of the Institute. How many guys here are >>>>> members of the ICT Association? Is it the bonafide body to represent all >>>>> ICT practitioners in Kenya? >>>>> 3. All ICT practitioners must be registered and licensed as ICT >>>>> practitioners on payment of annual fees. >>>>> 4. You must have a Diploma or Degree to qualify for registration >>>>> as an ICT partitioner. Just think about Bill Gates and Zuckerberg. Non of >>>>> them graduated from college, but they changed the world in their own small >>>>> way. >>>>> 5. You must have 3 years experience to practice ICT. >>>>> 5. The example of Bill Gates and Zuckerberg is the best yet, of >>>>> permission-less innovation >>>>> 6. A person shall not operate an ICT firm unless it is >>>>> registered by the Institute and has paid annual membership. >>>>> 7. A person shall not be entitled to recover a fee for ICT >>>>> services, unless such person is licensed under this Act. >>>>> >>>>> So my mechanic diagnoses my car using a computer, and does >>>>> computerised wheel balancing. They may now be prepared to get licensed. >>>>> >>>>> Well this bill affects all techies in this list. The bill makes >>>>> it illegal to practice your trade without being licensed. >>>>> >>>>> Well, the constitutions allows enough consultation before any >>>>> bill is passed in parliament. If you feel your interests are not taken care >>>>> by the new bill, then now is the time to raise your voice or forever keep >>>>> your cool. We will deliver any petition from this list to Leader of >>>>> Majority of the National Assembly, SNA, and Minister of ICT. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kazi Kwetu (kwenu) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________ >>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________ >>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5 July 2016 at 21:15, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Have been seeing it on the Kickanet forum... Big question is, >>>>>> what does it seek to cure? >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Patrick >>>>>> On Jul 5, 2016 9:04 PM, "Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks" < >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI - Anyone knows about this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Practitioners Bill 2016 is currently in >>>>>>> Parliament. It has interesting proposals for example to have an Institute >>>>>>> that will register and license ICT practitioners on payment of the >>>>>>> prescribed fees. 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