David,
On 24/06/2010, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:I called Zain customer care yesterday and was told if I registered for
> I got it from an authoritative source that we all need register afresh. It
> does not matter whether you are registered for MPESA etc.
>
Zap, I don't need to have my line registered again. Maybe that's with
Zain only.
They have been collecting this data without legislation on privacy yet
> D
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> from my understanding if one is already registered for mpesa and the like,
>> CCK may have the details they require, hence, you may already be
>> registered
>> without your knowledge!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Luke Kuvheya
>> <tendayi.kuvheya@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think its a noble idea for the registration and i agree with Brainiac,
>>> these cost will reach us, the end users. An example Look at the MPesa
>>> registration it is semi automated and "physical id verification" is
>>> unavoidable. Can we be protected as they do this process, as it is now
>>> our
>>> data will be out there at the mercy of the integrity of these providers.
>>>
>>> my 2cents
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Wanjiru Njoroge <
>>> wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My only concern, there's still no legislation on privacy and data
>>>> protection and that is a lot of info they'll be collecting.
we don't fret over the same. The option we've been given is: register
or be 'off the grid'
>>>>Alternatively, download the form if available online, covert it into
>>>>
>>>> On 6/23/10, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > I think only filling the form is manual...from there you can automate
word, input your info, print and drop it at your service provider!
-->>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:43 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> the idea is anything that involves "physical verification of
>>>> documents"
>>>> >> will have a MAN HOURS cost to do. Think of counting votes manually,
>>>> and
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> cost of staff to do that. or simply voter registration process....
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Joseph McDonald
>>>> >> <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> @ Brianiac I think you got it all wrong.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> There is no additional cost.They just want to know who owns what
>>>> line.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> They already have that with Mpesa,zap ETC....and that did not
>>>> translate
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>> additional cost.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> For me the Idea is most welcome...if you have nothing to hide.(that
>>>> >>> is).It
>>>> >>> will also help to establish the real market indicators for the
>>>> Industry.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng
>>>> >>> <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I have registered today at a safaricom dealer ...am on MPESA and
>>>> >>>> PPD
>>>> -
>>>> >>>> but they insist.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> took less than 5 mins...
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Barrack Otieno
>>>> >>>> <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> > Friends , this is common practice in Europe as Wash aptly
>>>> >>>> > captured
>>>> it,
>>>> >>>> > we must look at it from the point of Merit and demerits of not
>>>> >>>> > registering the Sim card, i suppose this was long overdue, i
>>>> remember
>>>> >>>> > buying my sim in 2002 and i had to register, then the practice
>>>> >>>> > was
>>>> >>>> > discarded ostensibly to promote growth of the industry which has
>>>> >>>> > already taken place , i suppose the next step would be to manage
>>>> this
>>>> >>>> > growth, which is why registration is key.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Larry Madowo <
>>>> larrymads@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >> People,
>>>> >>>> >> Though it might seem logistically insurmountable by Safaricom to
>>>> >>>> register
>>>> >>>> >> all the nearly 16m SIM cards on its network, almost half of them
>>>> are
>>>> >>>> on
>>>> >>>> >> M-Pesa so they need not register again. In the over a month that
>>>> the
>>>> >>>> rest
>>>> >>>> >> have, most will show up at service centres for one reason or
>>>> another
>>>> >>>> and get
>>>> >>>> >> registered. The ones that do not will have their numbers
>>>> disconnected
>>>> >>>> come
>>>> >>>> >> July 30th. This will achieve two things: the people who've held
>>>> >>>> multiple SIM
>>>> >>>> >> cards for one reason or another will lose them and the genuine
>>>> ones
>>>> >>>> will
>>>> >>>> >> rush to their service providers to reactivate their phones, and
>>>> get
>>>> >>>> >> registered.
>>>> >>>> >> Having said that, there is no legal basis for this as yet though
>>>> the
>>>> >>>> law is
>>>> >>>> >> just being drawn up but it seems the CCK and the government are
>>>> >>>> >> pretty
>>>> >>>> >> hellbent on pushing this through for security reasons.
>>>> >>>> >> Larry out
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:16 PM, [ Brainiac ] <
>>>> arebacollins@gmail.com
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> >>> Here is the problem :
>>>> >>>> >>> Its going to be costly, and the cost will be transferred to us,
>>>> and
>>>> >>>> may
>>>> >>>> >>> not necessarily achieve the intended purpose:
>>>> >>>> >>> reasons:
>>>> >>>> >>> 1: Physical verification of documents will not be cheap, take
>>>> for
>>>> >>>> instance
>>>> >>>> >>> safaricom. automatic verification is not practical (unless they
>>>> >>>> pursue an
>>>> >>>> >>> integration of births registry with immigration and other
>>>> >>>> >>> departments
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> >>> just integrate the data. The cost will be borne by safaricom,
>>>> trust
>>>> >>>> me.
>>>> >>>> >>> 2: If the objective is to track criminal activitied on phone,
>>>> then
>>>> >>>> >>> criminals might just resort to using stolen phones. :-(
>>>> >>>> >>> 3: The institutions currently existing have the needed
>>>> >>>> >>> resources
>>>> to
>>>> >>>> track
>>>> >>>> >>> mobile phone users. if not, the contacts for Cloie O'brien
>>>> should be
>>>> >>>> >>> somewhere out there. she can sort them out.
>>>> >>>> >>> :-))
>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> >>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Odhiambo Washington <
>>>> >>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Theus Owicho <
>>>> owichot@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>> Skunks
>>>> >>>> >>>>> I hear that this is after a "roadside" declaration by the
>>>> >>>> >>>>> president
>>>> >>>> >>>>> through his VP.
>>>> >>>> >>>>> A great read here http://bit.ly/9pox6O
>>>> >>>> >>>>> I am not seeing myself registering my SIM card
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> Across Europe, I found you could just buy a SIM card and use
>>>> it. No
>>>> >>>> one
>>>> >>>> >>>> really bothered.
>>>> >>>> >>>> However in Singapore, you don't get to buy a SIM card if you
>>>> don't
>>>> >>>> have
>>>> >>>> >>>> proper identification, and they take a copy of your
>>>> identification
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> >>>> accompany the registration! If, for instance, you call for a
>>>> taxi
>>>> >>>> (Taxi
>>>> >>>> >>>> companies there are registered and individuals CANNOT operate
>>>> >>>> taxis!) and
>>>> >>>> >>>> disappear with another one that just happened to be nearer,
>>>> >>>> >>>> you
>>>> >>>> >>>> will
>>>> >>>> receive
>>>> >>>> >>>> a bill anyway:-)
>>>> >>>> >>>> Now, personally, I don't see anything ill with the requirement
>>>> that
>>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>> >>>> register SIM cards, and I am not opposed to the govt using my
>>>> >>>> information.
>>>> >>>> >>>> After all, the govt controls everything, bar for the air you
>>>> >>>> >>>> breath,
>>>> >>>> no?
>>>> >>>> >>>> That is why it is government. You don't wish you were in
>>>> Somalia,
>>>> >>>> right?
>>>> >>>> >>>> I really don't understand why someone would NOT want to
>>>> register
>>>> >>>> their
>>>> >>>> >>>> SIM cards.
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards,
>>>> >>>> >>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>>> >>>> >>>> Nairobi,KE
>>>> >>>> >>>> +254733744121/+254722743223
>>>> >>>> >>>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>>> >>>> >>>> "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut
>>>> >>>> >>>> up!."
>>>> >>>> >>>> -- Lucky Dube
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