@Labo - thats why its an invisible water mark, that takes care of issue 2. Issue 1 is not really an issue since if I have the DVD and ran it on the watermark software, it will not show any watermark and thats not a problem since it is really not piracy as such.<div>
<br></div><div>./Ok3ch<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:51 PM, peter kihara <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kiharapet@gmail.com" target="_blank">kiharapet@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
And there is your solution. Make the media available and cheap and pap! I highly doubt if after you have finished paying for that expensive HD camera you should continue charging expensively.<br>It worked for JuaCali he sold his album for 100 and he said sales were okay.<br>

The plan also works in India where there are different classes of movie halls.<br>Que: How is the guy copying the DVD/CD making a profit ? he has bought the same CDs made covers and distributed. so all you have to do is beat him at it<br>

 <br clear="all"><b>Kind Regards<br>Peter Kihara Muchangi<br><font><b style="font-weight:normal"></b></font></b><font><b><font>&quot;Do
 nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility 
value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but 
each of you to the interests of the others&quot;</font></b></font><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div></div><div style="line-height:130%;text-align:left;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;margin-left:0px;word-wrap:break-word;margin-top:0px;padding:0px">

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Laban Mwangi <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lmwangi@gmail.com" target="_blank">lmwangi@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Two issues that I can see:<br>1) What if I as an end user of tv station one made a copy off the airwaves and distributed it (Ignore the chance that a broadcast rip might not be as good as a dvd rip)? You&#39;d go to tv station one and claim piracy yet they had nothing to do it with... ergo they can use that argument in court.<br>


2) If it&#39;s a watermark, end users will find it and scrub it. All they have to do is look for anomalies in the frames... See<br><a href="http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1288902" target="_blank">http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1288902</a><br>


<br><br>The point is, if you can do find a  technical solution, users will always find a way around it. See<br><a href="http://gigaom.com/video/drm-fail-five-broken-copy-protection-schemes-2/" target="_blank">http://gigaom.com/video/drm-fail-five-broken-copy-protection-schemes-2/</a><br>


<br>Now loop in Adobe encrypted epubs, the kindle format, the Sony&#39;s rootkit fiasco and you can see where this is going... If media was relatively cheap, available and unencumbered, more people would opt to buy/rent the legit copy.<div>

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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Okechukwu <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:okechukwu@gmail.com" target="_blank">okechukwu@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


By the way, my scope of work is limited to the local content being broadcast on TV, for example, the recent Night of a thousand laughs concert presented a big problem since the DVD&#39;s were supposed to be resold to specific TV stations in the region and they did find themselves in the black market. What would have happened in this scenario is that we would have sold to say 5 local TV stations who are authorized to show it sometime in future and if any copy found itself in the black market, then we would go and buy it and run it through the watermarker and be able to identify which of the 5 stations did the duplicate and then institute legal action against the specific station.<div>



<br></div><div>This would never be a solution for your good old series downloadable from the net, but without digressing from the topic - the original post was actually based on content you have created (or in charge thereof) and not just some stuff on the internet.<br>



<div><br></div><div>./Ok3ch<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:42 AM, John Gitau <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jgitau@gmail.com" target="_blank">jgitau@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hehe he... You can&#39;t fight them, but okech is speaking of control. And that&#39;s possible. If I sell to you, watermark it or tag it (networkers are good at this), you can identify it and use it. </div>



<div><br></div><div>What I can guarantee is that over time,they will gain control. (who is they!?) hee</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div><div><br>On Jul 6, 2012, at 22:41, amanya &lt;<a href="mailto:whynnot@gmail.com" target="_blank">whynnot@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>



<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>for authorized duplication, i&#39;d walk down river road so to speak, there are a couple of music production houses there. if need be talk to steenie 0722477344, he knows his way around there. </p>




<p>to prevent unauthorized duplication, am not aware of that having been done successfully. </p>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Am actually working on a solution (not really a solution but some leverage to deal with pirates) where a video is encoded with an invisible watermark which is unique for every copy made on DVD/CD. If any copy appears on the black market, the software can read the watermark and compare it with the database and know the distributor (who legally acquired it and decided to duplicate). This then is used as evidence to sue the distributor and deal with the root cause of piracy - which is never the guy the innocently buys a pirated copy.</div>




<div><br></div><div>./Ok3ch<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jul 6, 2012, at 16:05, Collins Areba &lt;<a href="mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com" target="_blank">arebacollins@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>



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</div><blockquote type="cite"><div>@john if its something sellable like music, talk to me too, I have a platform for distribution. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM, John Karanja <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mauxdatabase@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:mauxdatabase@gmail.com" target="_blank">mauxdatabase@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>mmmmh its a tricky one cause i am realising its different with text, sound and video <br></div><div><br></div><div>





Ok where can I burn like 10,000 CD&#39;s?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the help</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div>
<div>John.</div></font></span><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Odhiambo Washington <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I thought copying is defined as reading from source A and writing to source B. So you need to find a way to prevent the &quot;reading&quot; in the first place:-)<div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:40 PM, John Karanja <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mauxdatabase@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:mauxdatabase@gmail.com" target="_blank">mauxdatabase@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Its still possible to copy from that. I would also like to prevent copying and make many copies.<span><font color="#888888"><br>








</font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>John</div></font></span><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Joseph Maina <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mainasoft00@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:mainasoft00@gmail.com" target="_blank">mainasoft00@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>









<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">the write protect tab..<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:29 PM, John Karanja <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mauxdatabase@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:mauxdatabase@gmail.com" target="_blank">mauxdatabase@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>










</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div>Hi Skunks,<br></div><div><br></div><div>How can I make a CD read only i.e. Impossible to copy from?</div>









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</div><div>Are there any such services available in town as I would like to do it en masse.</div><div><br>
</div><div>Hit me up off list, your assistance will be greatly appreciated.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheerz,</div><div><br></div><div>John</div>
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