@Areba, long time no see? welcome back. :-) @Martin, good morning to you too. Am certain you do much more important things with better impact during your other time, as everyone else, however I think you are the only person on this list so far that has done something from scratch. As a further example and IMHO, What about 99% of others. Those thousands who make it past University level each year causing annoying traffic jams and had the chance to not pretend that poverty and lack of education affected their performances or chances. This is all am saying, that a lot of you programmers that are ahead need to look at the full circle so that those 99% kondoo degree holders ( kondoo reference means one sheep follows the other ) who probably will follow the same dream of sitting on their a.ses and waiting to become something because the next pretend is that there is a lack of jobs which is another excuse not to do things, can have a peers that mean some guidance. If University levels thinking is that of consumerism of the 3rd world i.e I have a ancestral land upcountry that I can fall back on in hard times, I really need to become a business person to complete the equation of success which means I'll play more pretend of being an e.g Open Source vendor ( not programmer ) developer, then we are where on the scale of development in a sector that has a very strong potential to change the destiny of this country within the 10 year cycle, not even 30 years? some thots. :-)