My Opinion Alex, i have done a lot of Social Work through Project Discovery (www.projectdiscovery.or.ke)  and i have also taught ICDL programs for a while, that is my take based on my experiences , let the people decide, i think it would pay if we focus on the global picture does that answer ???

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dr. Ndemo,
> Permit me to differ with you on this and  agree with Waudo's position, such
> a move would be defeatist, let the market decide what it wants with regard
> to the Computer Applications, the issue here is about the skills and the
> market should  determine that , Africa as a continent and we as a country
> are trying to catch up with the developed world and only "freedom" can can
> bring about innovation, i think  governmnet should focus on Infrastructure
> and the  global policy  environment. I would like to get the opinion of
> other policy makers on the same issue.
> Regards
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> If they report your Open Source clarification clearly, then we may
>> consider dropping our open source complaint to MCK.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> a.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 AM,  <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>> > I will be on KTN in 5 minutes to clarify this.  Please watch.
>> >
>> > Ndemo
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:05:01
>> > To: Zacs<mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com>
>> > Cc: Skunkworks Forum<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>;
>> > ke-users<ke-internetusers@bdix.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted: Is
>> > Open
>> >        Office recognized?
>> >
>> > I have reliable information to the effect that the PS mentioned both
>> > Open Source ICDL and Proprietary ICDL. Now looking for the actual KTN
>> > footage to confirm what was actually reported, upon whose
>> > confirmation, if found skewed reporting as true we shall lodge a
>> > formal, open complaint against the media house to the Media Council of
>> > Kenya for misinformation on such a sensitive national subject.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> I seriously believe there is no way ICDL can be a proprietary licence.
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
>> >> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users
>> >> <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>
>> >> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 12:19:57 AM
>> >> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted: Is
>> >> Open
>> >> Office recognized?
>> >>
>> >> If they only gazette ICDL and leave out OpenICDL
>> >> http://www.openicdl.org/ we shall go to court to have the Gazette
>> >> Notice annulled on the basis of its illegality hence illegitimacy.
>> >> Contemplating such an illegal move would leave sour scars  and in any
>> >> case we no longer have time for niceties play with Microsofties
>> >> family..
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> I sincerely hope this is not the case. It would be very unfortunate if
>> >>> government forces citizens to take a certain route.
>> >>> From my small investigation ICDL seems to be a pretty widespread
>> >>> standard
>> >>> that is supposed to be vendor neutral and not linked to any particular
>> >>> software. See this link for some
>> >>> information. http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=102&n=108 as
>> >>> well
>> >>> as
>> >>> this one http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=108&n=119.  I hope
>> >>> this
>> >>> is what was in mind
>> >>>
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