Hey Mike there

i think we should let people feel free to choose what they want to learn or not at whatever cost they want. You may not belief this but the course is important to some people. Talking disparagingly about what other people have put so much effort to bring to bare sound elitist, and I know you don't like class and elitism.

Imagine if folks started talking about your iPhone, how unreasonable and costly it is, just imagine. We all have our opiums.

Thank you.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Am waiting. Atoe karatasi zake. Mimi ni mbwea kwa haya. Let me be schooled

On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alalalalalala... mike, you dont really want to back up that tree...
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rad
>> Lay bare what you have achieved as a coder. Let me declare that I only
>> have a Library System to my name and nobody has ever shown interest in
>> it.
>>
>> I would want to know what you have in your CV since my dad taught me
>> to ask my lecturers their qualification b4 they do anything to my
>> knowledge
>>
>> On 7/8/09, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > it would seen mike is unable to put up, and is all talk even though
>> > there is nothing to lose. my challenge remains. I will personally be
>> > there instructing one of the tracks.
>> >
>> > On 7/8/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Deja vu......
>> >>
>> >> On 7/8/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Deja vu......
>> >>>
>> >>> On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Well, I have personally been to those events, I dont think they are a
>> >>>> waste
>> >>>> of time... or money. Anyone else who has ben to one of those
>> events...?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Ndugu Mworia
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ask anyone who has been to those events. They will tell you what a
>> >>>>> waste they are
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> > @okech i think you are hitting below the belt here. there are
>> people
>> >>>>> > who
>> >>>>> > have gone through a lot of trouble to make this event work out.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:58 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >> Rad
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> You can give me the 1500 I buy some mtura jioni in Kibera while
>> >>>>> >> finishing to fit our slum web dev centre.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> None of the people there have anything new to offer. The
>> >>>>> >> bootcamps
>> >>>>> >> are
>> >>>>> >> Straths way of looting like the Kibaki's government is teaching
>> all
>> >>>>> >> to
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> On 7/8/09, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>  > What do you mean 'still rely on off the shelf' jameni! We
>> >>>>> >> can't
>> >>>>> >> all
>> >>>>> >> start
>> >>>>> >> > coding in assembly.
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> > Listen, since the cost bothers you so much, I am willing to
>> >>>>> >> > sponsor
>> >>>>> you
>> >>>>> >> to
>> >>>>> >> > attend. Put your money where your mouth is. Provided you take
>> >>>>> >> > copious
>> >>>>> >> notes,
>> >>>>> >> > write a comprehensive report on what you learned and upload it
>> for
>> >>>>> >> > anyone
>> >>>>> >> in
>> >>>>> >> > this forum who cannot attend to share. We keep complaining that
>> >>>>> >> > the
>> >>>>> >> problem
>> >>>>> >> > is sharing information yet when people attempt to share another
>> >>>>> >> > complaint
>> >>>>> >> is
>> >>>>> >> > pulled out of the hat.
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> > Like I said before, nothing is absolutely free.
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:04 PM, mike oketch <
>> mikeoketch@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >> >> rad
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> What kind of handson training in sofware developmeot will
>> people
>> >>>>> >> >> who
>> >>>>> >> >> still rely on off the shelf teach me? Ingekuwa sare esp for
>> >>>>> >> >> our
>> >>>>> >> >> young
>> >>>>> >> >> ndugus in colle
>> >>>>> >> >>
>> >>>>> >> >
>> >>>>> >>
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