Wireless is great but the speeds indicated are only theoretical. Like for wifi with link speed of 54mbps you get a throughput of 22.5 - 25mbps depending on hardware and the kind of connection. Wireless is only good in cases where cabling is poor or for fast deployments.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
because of investment inertia.

If 54Mbps available on some wireless technologies were available then,
no one would have bothered to invest in the cable.
True or false:

Just the same way if there was a way of transmitting power wirelessly
, or water, it would be the medium of choice.

:-)

On 6/11/09, Job Njogu <jnjogu@gmail.com> wrote:
> They definately would make cash but not as much as on voice. Wireless
>  technologies are only a favorite in places with poor cabled networks.
>  Countries with true broadband speeds >10 mbps per user dont use
>  wireless connections they are on cable! why is that?
>
>
>  On 6/11/09, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > EXACTLY,
>  > So if you tell me for instance Orange decide to give data only and
>  > value add they wouldnt make any money?
>  >
>  > How i wish i had an Oil field, I would be vying for Zain -> call it
>  > Cain and only trade in data + text + value add services.
>  >
>  > On 6/11/09, Job Njogu <jnjogu@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> @Areba. You should know that on mobile networks users share the same
>  >>  data channels and same radio resourses with voice users on the same
>  >>  base station. So giving quality of service si pretty hard not unless
>  >>  they build data only mobile networks which would be more expensive and
>  >>  not practical. If you want to host anything go for data only carriers
>  >>  and you will not be pulling your head off as often.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  On 6/11/09, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  > Here is what i do not get it:
>  >>  >
>  >>  > You can get a 3G modems going as low as 3k, (and coming down). With
>  >>  > certain level of QOS, who would be able to compete withmobile phone
>  >>  > companies?
>  >>  >
>  >>  > On 6/11/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >> KDN have a countrywide fiber newtwork and usually sublet it to other
>  >>  >>  ISPs. KDN is the reason that Zain(insert new name here) are not
>  >>  >>  aggressive in their data marketing, since they have a common minority
>  >>  >>  holder( Sameer). somone was telling me that KDN sublet thir cable to
>  >>  >>  ISPs who want to bridge their services between two major towns e.g.
>  >>  >>  Nairobi & Kisumu.
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  IMHO, KDN is the guy to watch.
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  On 11/06/2009, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  > "*3: is it realistic to envision someday setting my webserver
>  >> connected
>  >>  >> to
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >> > an e61i or huaweii modem and sell realistic hosting from the comfort
>  >> of
>  >>  >> > my
>  >>  >>  > home in kajiado?*"
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  > I don't think this will happen soon, even with multiple fibers
>  >> coming
>  >>  >> to the
>  >>  >>  > country, especially if traffic to the hosted sites will be high.
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  > As a compromise, maybe by then, one of the local ISPs will have got
>  >>  >> their
>  >>  >>  > act together and setup a countrywide Tier 2 link then maybe have a
>  >>  >> direct
>  >>  >>  > connection, via any of the fibers, to a Tier 1 backbone. Maybe
>  >> then,
>  >>  >> one of
>  >>  >>  > the root name servers will be in Africa. If that be the case, you
>  >> might
>  >>  >> be
>  >>  >>  > able to setup a local server farm and use that to offer hosting
>  >>  >> services,
>  >>  >>  > which will be competitive with the likes of 1and1.
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  > However, using 3G (i.e the Nokia E61i or Huaweii modem) as the main
>  >>  >> link
>  >>  >>  > from your server to the internet might be a technically inferior
>  >>  >> solution to
>  >>  >>  > the local hosting problem.
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  > My 2 cents :-)
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Areba Collins
>  >>  >>  > <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  >> I find this forum appropriate to engage in this discussion. Once
>  >>  >>  >> again, if this has been done before, forgive me, im trying to get
>  >>  >>  >> opinions and views, and possible scenarios. Please consider the
>  >>  >>  >> following:
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >> 1: Fiber lands, Mobile providers offer unlimited band on 3G at
>  >> monthly
>  >>  >>  >> flat rates: say for instance 7.2M at Ksh2000 on a contention ratio
>  >> of
>  >>  >>  >> about 100 users.  What possible scenarios exist for companies like
>  >>  >>  >> access , wananichi and other providers.
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >> 2: Would companies like safari and zain (or Cain depending on who
>  >> is
>  >>  >>  >> next online) have capacity to roll out (and sustain 3G network)
>  >>  >>  >> countrywide? -> this being from a business and not technology
>  >>  >>  >> perspective. -> are mobile companies a real enough threat to kill
>  >>  >>  >> traditional ISPs?
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >> 3: is it realistic to envision someday setting my webserver
>  >> connected
>  >>  >>  >> to an e61i or huaweii modem and sell realistic hosting from the
>  >>  >>  >> comfort of my home in kajiado?
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >> Thanks in Advance.
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