I agree with Grace that this discussion could be stepped up a notch.

On the other hand, after signing the petition, I found a new train of thought.

Allow me to equate this scenario to a young and boisterous fun filled church (Kindly indulge my christian analogy.) Such a church preaches to the masses and reaches the populace and the youth in ways a more traditional church would not. After a while in such a church, one tends to need and may seek deeper spiritual maturity, and the eventual result is a larger flock for the more traditional church.

A lot of funding goes towards social projects in Kenya, but the means of outreach have been the same old beaten path of billboards, TV adverts, and radio shows, in structures and formats that are unpalatable.

Classic has unearthed social issues that we as a people have dug deep and kept mum about. Let them keep doing it. Were the NGO's and counselors to work with them consistently and constantly behind the scenes like a pastor guiding the masses to deeper maturity,  a lot of the social dev projects would have a greater semblance of success.

This video is related, a TED Talk about Selling Condoms in The Congo, where aid agencies have flooded the country with free and cheap condoms, but few people are using them. It tries to answer why,  in that the mode of marketing or selling the solution does not appeal to the target audience.

Selling Condoms in The Congo


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Eva Kimathi <evakimathi@gmail.com> wrote:
:) 


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL !! Classic Eva ...hahaha

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Eva Kimathi <evakimathi@gmail.com> wrote:
> illegal gadget idea:
>  1. a gadget that can switch stations when turned on...kinda sorta like a
> remote control that does not need IR to work.
>  2. Radio Signal Distortion gadget.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Benjamin <anangwe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Petition Through Corporate Advertizers Not Emails Targeting Individuals
>>
>> On 11/2/11, jamo njoroge <patjayke@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I can also see the petition failing coz not only will it be fighting
>> > against maina and his crew but he also has backing from the corporate
>> > advertizers. we need to do more research and find out what happened to
>> > the
>> > langa's who used to advertise on the acupuncture column of the Daily
>> > Nation
>> > classifieds offering massages with a happy ending...
>> >
>> > On 2 November 2011 10:45, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From the few lessons I have had in law....I can tell you,even if you
>> >> have
>> >> a petition you will have to prove that your fundamental right was
>> >> infringed
>> >> upon and even if you succeed you will have to prove that you did not
>> >> completely have a choice and  that you suffered more than anyone else
>> >> who
>> >> listens to classic and lastly you will have to prove that you are an
>> >> authority in moral issues.A long legal shot in a moving target.
>> >>
>> >> I tell you today if you held a yes vs no vote against classic you will
>> >> be
>> >> shocked that the yes will win.
>> >>
>> >> What surprises me is that the callers and the contributors cut a cross
>> >> the
>> >> whole spectrum of the society men,women (of all ages),religious,stay
>> >> home
>> >> mums,working class,the wealthy...etc a lot of people listen to classic
>> >> and
>> >> a lot of corporates advertise expensively at that time,what about their
>> >> rights? The best way would be the corporates to stop advertising and
>> >> send
>> >> a
>> >> moral message to the stations (these corporates are headed by who
>> >> again?
>> >> the men and women of high moral standing...pls give me a
>> >> break)...........
>> >>
>> >> In my opinion there is a gap in our society which Classic is
>> >> exploiting,whether they have the authority or professionalism to do it
>> >> is
>> >> another debate.People are suffering in their relationship and they need
>> >> someone to talk to,they cannot talk to the pastor (bcz the pastors are
>> >> not
>> >> as holy as we think,they can not talk to their friends because your
>> >> best
>> >> friend is the one slicing you etc) so they get solace from the fact
>> >> that
>> >> they are not the only one suffering,the calling is therapeutic and goes
>> >> along way to heal them emotionally.
>> >>
>> >> I also find it to be informative,i need to know as much as there are
>> >> good
>> >> marriages that work,there are also a lot of pretense,and hypocrisy and
>> >> schemers in marriage ( I need to know the truth as it is),and we are
>> >> all
>> >> ventilating because deep down we know its true.
>> >>
>> >> I agree that the show can be embarrassing sometime in a public
>> >> transport
>> >> setting but the lessons can be worth a life time.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:25 AM, kennedy kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> to be realistic, classic is not going anywhere petition or no
>> >>> petition.
>> >>> Shiku of busted is still there even after being taken to court. Homes
>> >>> have
>> >>> been broken wacha hii story ya watoi kuskiza....
>> >>>
>> >>> what is my toi is one of those that go to bed when mimi naenda, will i
>> >>> still watch K24 CONNECT?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Well put Edwin,,like Okechukwu asked "is that so hard to
>> >>>> understand?".
>> >>>> We are not saying those discussions zitolewe kabisa, but leta them
>> >>>> usiku when our kids are asleep.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I gave example of K24..CONNECT.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I also disagree with Mc Donald.
>> >>>> > Some of us do not have a choice. For example, on my route (105/30)
>> >>>> there are
>> >>>> > many matatus, City Hoppas, City Shuttles, Metro Shuttles e.t.c. and
>> >>>> it's
>> >>>> > like Maina and Company have signed a contract with the matatus and
>> >>>> their
>> >>>> > Saccos to always air their show in the morning. If you wait for one
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> > doesn't air that show you might have to get to work very late.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > We can talk about marriages being a sham but the truth is there are
>> >>>> some
>> >>>> > marriages which are actually working, and there are people who do
>> >>>> > not
>> >>>> > conform to the gender, tribal and racial stereotypes being
>> >>>> > glorified
>> >>>> in that
>> >>>> > show. If all that people hear are how pathetic Kenyan men are, or
>> >>>> > that
>> >>>> > Nairobi women are all after money ( and the people who hear this
>> >>>> include the
>> >>>> > children boarding the matatus in the morning) won't our society
>> >>>> degenerate
>> >>>> > even further?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > There are even racier shows and nobody is complaining about them
>> >>>> because
>> >>>> > they are not aired in the morning, in a lot of PSVs and other
>> >>>> > public
>> >>>> places.
>> >>>> > If the show is as popular as the proponents claim it is, it will
>> >>>> > still
>> >>>> > generate a lot of revenue if it's aired after hours. Those who get
>> >>>> > entertained by it and those who want to call in to receive "help"
>> >>>> > will
>> >>>> > continue doing so.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > We want freedom but freedom comes with responsibility, and there's
>> >>>> nothing
>> >>>> > like total freedom because total freedom to one person might be
>> >>>> violation of
>> >>>> > freedom of another person, that's why things like Censorship boards
>> >>>> > and
>> >>>> > Regulatory Boards exist.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Regards,
>> >>>> > Edwin
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> I refuse to agree with you McD - coz the freedom of speech as much
>> >>>> >> as
>> >>>> >> it is a fundamental right should never infringe on someone else's
>> >>>> >> freedom - Talking about Waumini & Ghetto radio - its clearly not
>> >>>> >> infringing on someone's right to associate with, a matatu to
>> >>>> >> board,
>> >>>> >> but Classic and team are clearly disturbing some masses. There are
>> >>>> >> things that can be tolerated, but all everyone is asking is,
>> >>>> >> please
>> >>>> >> discuss them after hours - is that so hard to understand?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> ./Ok3ch
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Joseph Maina
>> >>>> >> <mainasoft00@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > @ Mc Donald.... very right ....
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Joseph McDonald <
>> >>>> mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> > wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> It is ironical....the parents are the ones calling.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> So long as you have a choice there is nothing you can do.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> You have a choice in the stations,You have a choice in the mode
>> >>>> >> >> of
>> >>>> >> >> transport (you can take a city hopper or boda boda),you have a
>> >>>> choice
>> >>>> >> >> to
>> >>>> >> >> alight before the mat starts the journey and even alight after
>> >>>> >> >> the
>> >>>> mat
>> >>>> >> >> starts the journey.If you dont exercise these choices then you
>> >>>> >> >> have
>> >>>> >> >> accepted
>> >>>> >> >> to listen to classic.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> The fact of the matter is that most marriages are a
>> >>>> >> >> sham,morality
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> >> >> Kenya
>> >>>> >> >> is at its lowest (so I cant buy that moral theory) ...dont kill
>> >>>> >> >> the
>> >>>> >> >> messenger...(In fact Kenyans are more tribal than religious)
>> >>>> >> >> what
>> >>>> >> >> classic is
>> >>>> >> >> doing is offering a platform.They dont hold a gun on any one
>> >>>> either to
>> >>>> >> >> call
>> >>>> >> >> or listen or advertise.Its called freedom of expression.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Today if we stop Classic, tomorrow what will stop somebody
>> >>>> >> >>  from
>> >>>> saying
>> >>>> >> >> a) Waumini FM is indoctrinating our kids with catholic
>> >>>> >> >> teachings
>> >>>> >> >> b) Or Ghetto FM is making our kids fail in Kiswahili because
>> >>>> >> >> ina
>> >>>> leta
>> >>>> >> >> brrrrrrcha
>> >>>> >> >> c) or Hope FM is only Christian what about the muslim or hindu
>> >>>> >> >> etc
>> >>>> >> >> d) or lets demolish K-street because there is a lot of
>> >>>> >> >> immorality
>> >>>> going
>> >>>> >> >> on
>> >>>> >> >> there.
>> >>>> >> >> d) or petition women not to wear mini skirts because its
>> >>>> >> >> "immoral".....we
>> >>>> >> >> will be sliding back to stone age
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> For the last 5+ years every morning some one calls in and 20
>> >>>> >> >> others
>> >>>> >> >> follow
>> >>>> >> >> with a similar problem, what does that tell you?
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> My advice wake up and smell the coffee its a new world
>> >>>> order.....and I
>> >>>> >> >> can
>> >>>> >> >> bet my  entire earthly belongings that Classic is here to stay
>> >>>> >> >> and
>> >>>> most
>> >>>> >> >> of
>> >>>> >> >> the people complaining are listeners as well in the morning.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> What about their accomplices, Matatu drivers. I am sure they
>> >>>> >> >>> can
>> >>>> tune
>> >>>> >> >>> in
>> >>>> >> >>> to other music, like some Embassava matatu, KAT, that I once
>> >>>> boarded,
>> >>>> >> >>> He
>> >>>> >> >>> played Worship CDs , stopped patiently at traffic lights ....
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