Apple also contributes Webkit On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Once again James, I disagree, sorry. If your idea of Open Source is Linux only then your view is skewed. Apple actually contributes back to *BSD, but simply because their code-bases / APIs are different from Linux, the contributions never reach Everyone.
One of the core FreeBSD developers here [ http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2004-July/002494.html ] is quoted as saying, "Apple makes extensive use of open source for lower level operating system frameworks, application services, etc, and participates actively in many of the open source communities associated with those projects.".
Also, I did not say a *majority of FreeBSD* developers are from Apple. I actually said *a number of key committers* of FreeBSD. Committers are the only ones who push changes to the main software repository. They number around 200, that means that Apple devs are much less, so my claims might actually be reasonable.
Martin.
On 11/16/11, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
@Martin The ripoff bit comes when they take open source (which was free) close it, add alittle of their own stuff that makes it less secure than anything else and flog it ...doesnt matter what price. Ontop of that compared to what they rip, they contribute very little back to open until pressure mounts on them
2011/11/16, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com>:
@ Martin I read that article some time ago. Dont think you're showing me anything new
That article mentions quite afew - not majority - of apple devs....and thats only for the FreeBSD project. How you translated that to majority...i don't know
There are 4 other BSD projects that apple hardly derives from. But if you are realy interested in the dev's stats, each project provides a list of developers and some bg info on each. Find them, read them then we will be on the same wavelength for a productive argument.
2011/11/16, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>:
@James, you might want to have a look at the links I posted earlier. I understand your cognitive dissonance. The link from I.B.M has a part that says " ...... But there is considerable overlap between FreeBSD and Darwin development, and quite a few FreeBSD developers are Apple employees."
I think that a number of key FreeBSD committers are Mac OS X developers simply because Apple hired them due to their operating systems' close ancestry. One of the guys is John Hubbard. Check this out [
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/FreeBSD_Delay_Mac_OS_X_TMO_Speaks_Wit...
]
Once again, please open the links I sent and read the pages, I might be wrong :)
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