I had a similar experience when I went to return some unused scratch cards that had expired.
@wash . I think the redemption items are usually refurbished. that
is why redemption merchandise stock are provisioned differently than
the stocks for sale
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On 8/2/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, this must have escaped me from any available fine prints!
> I redemeed 30000 points for a phone (Alcatel OT-918) and guess what? The
> phone is locked to Safaricom network. I have just discovered this after
> starting my adventures with the Android phone.
> Having redeemed a phone before (Huawei IDEOS which was never locked) it did
> not occur to me that one day I will be redeeming network-locked items.
> I think this is another level of MADHARAU.
> These were my Bonga points, diligently accumulated from spending my
> hard-earned money talking on SCOM network and I don't really think SCOM
> should have the power to decide for me what to do with a device I get from
> them as a result of being a Loyal customer (which now is surely going out
> of the window!)
>
> Does this now mean that those who redeem their Bonga points for Airtime
> cannot use that airtime to call numbers which are not Safaricom's?
>
> I see a situation where SCOM is becoming unwise. Let me see if their
> position is that I MUST not use the phone on a different network.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Odhiambo Washington
> <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> @Mugo,
>>
>> For sure it's only an issue when it comes to Bonga-points redemption.
>> Here
>> is what I have learn during the last few days I have interacted with
>> them:
>>
>> 1. Redemption merchandise stock are provisioned differently than the
>> stocks for sale.
>> 2. They almost want to force clients who are redeeming their Bonga points
>> to a restricted subset of the products.
>> When I went to the shop, I was told only one color is available for
>> the redemption items. Different colors of the same items
>> were very much available for the sales stock. It was almost like
>> forcing a color on me! This is not wise. You cannot force a
>> client to take a red phone instead of their color choice!
>> SCOM must do something about this. They should modify their system to
>> allow an item to be picked from the same stocks, and be classified
>> differently on the system at the till - as new sale or redemption. There
>> is
>> no point in placing restrictions on the redemption merchandise.
>> 3. I was able to navigate through the Bonga system menu and redeem an
>> item
>> even though the SIM card did not have sufficient
>> points for the items I intended to redeem. This should look like an
>> anomaly to me. It should check and fail to give me a
>> password if the Bonga points are less than the number/quantity
>> required for the item.
>>
>> I have to say that after all the bad experience, I got the necessary help
>> and have my problem with redemption sorted out.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:35 PM, m mugo <mugo2of3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny that only BongaPoints-redeemable stuff is always out of stock.
>>>
>>> I'm sure that had you been purchasing the same, STOCK would have turned
>>> up from somewhere by now. in fact, they would have asked you for your
>>> phone
>>> no. to alert you when it arrives...
>>>
>>> Mugo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Jangita Nyagudi <
>>> jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> True, not good.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine I have a shop in Eldoret that says we have fresh mangoes, and
>>>> customers make the trip only to tell them it is out of stock.
>>>> Time *is* money (at least to me), don't say you can do what you cannot
>>>> do. We might as well all say we can do anything, only to tell
>>>> prospective clients "sorry, we don't offer this service at this time!"
>>>>
>>>> On 1 August 2012 22:14, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > SCOM is not Animal Farm, I suppose then.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Nicholas Mutinda
>>>> > <mutindah@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> i thought this only happened to those who are redeeming low end
>>>> phones ie
>>>> >> 4000 bonga points........
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Odhiambo Washington <
>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Well, [ Customer Loyalty ] == [ Customer Loyalty ] == [ Retention
>>>> >>> ],
>>>> >>> right? Is it a favor SCOM is doing anyone? It's very much part and
>>>> parcel of
>>>> >>> Customer Service and service needs to meet customer expectations. I
>>>> really
>>>> >>> don't care of there is no contract regarding customer loyalty, but
>>>> the fact
>>>> >>> that it is there gives me the right to speak on it - as a Customer.
>>>> If they
>>>> >>> were doing this to someone who doesn't give them money, then I'd
>>>> listen to
>>>> >>> your angle.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> * No prejudice intended towards you*.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> First of all I do not think bonga point matrices and rewards are
>>>> part of
>>>> >>>> the contract with Safaricom. Therefore arguing that the ratios are
>>>> unfair is
>>>> >>>> looking a gift horse in the mouth. About the lack of stock and
>>>> >>>> what
>>>> have you
>>>> >>>> true that is appalling customer care but by and large Safaricom
>>>> >>>> are
>>>> >>>> *relatively* the most responsive to complaints.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Odhiambo Washington <
>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> @Joram,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> If you have 100000+ Bonga points, you know how much business that
>>>> is to
>>>> >>>>> SCOM? I think they say crap - you spent only 1m on us!
>>>> >>>>> :-)
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Joram Mwinamo <
>>>> joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Kuna Mtu AMESIRIKA!!!
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington
>>>> >>>>>> <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Imagine this:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> You have accumulated enough Bonga points to redeem some
>>>> merchandise.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> You look at the revamped website and decide on one of the
>>>> >>>>>>> phones
>>>> they
>>>> >>>>>>> have there.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> You go ahead and redeem. You get the password.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> You go to the shop to collect item. You are told Matrix was
>>>> adjusted
>>>> >>>>>>> so what you redeemed is not applicable.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> You go back to your phone and redeem another item.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> You go to the shop to collect. The shop attendants tell you the
>>>> item
>>>> >>>>>>> is OUT OF STOCK.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> You Tweet Safaricom on Twitter (inc Bob Collymore) to alert
>>>> >>>>>>> them
>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>>> this anomaly. They acknowledge feeback.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Three days down the line, no changes on the website.
>>>> >>>>>>> Merchandise
>>>> >>>>>>> still there, listed, thought out of stock!
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Is this not MADHARAU to Customers? Of what use is feedback
>>>> >>>>>>> which
>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>>> trashed and not acted on - or better still, sat on?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> And look at the Merchandise Matrix - you need 40000 points to
>>>> redeem
>>>> >>>>>>> a Samsung Galaxy Mini valued at 13k.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 40000 points means you've spent a whole 400,000 on Safaricom.
>>>> Doesn't
>>>> >>>>>>> make sense really. Some sane proportioning needs to be taken
>>>> into account.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> And now because I am in rant mode - someone tell Safaricom to
>>>> fix
>>>> >>>>>>> the issue with annoying call drops to their CS!
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> --
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>>>> >>>>>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>>> >>>>>>> Nairobi,KE
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>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>> Nairobi,KE
>> +254733744121/+254722743223
>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
> Nairobi,KE
> +254733744121/+254722743223
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
>
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