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1. Re: If Architects Had to Work Like Web Designers (Dennis Kioko)
2. Re: Guardin against ATM thefts (Solomon Mburu)
3. Re: Delivering torrents as http traffic (Dennis Kioko)
4. Online payment (Sammy Njoroge)
5. Re: Looking for Logistics Company (Steve Obbayi)
6. Re: Looking for Logistics Company (Josiah Mugambi)
7. Re: Looking for Logistics Company (Alvin Jason Ochieng)
8. Re: Looking for Logistics Company (Alvin Jason Ochieng)
9. Rack server pricing (Arthur Simiyu)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:16:46 +0300
From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] If Architects Had to Work Like Web Designers
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thanks Gichingiri. I guess I should have attended all my Software
Requirement analysis classes. i remember seeing something like that in the
notes.
2009/10/7 Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>

> @Dennis, have an agreement at the start stating the scope of the project.
> Then have a detailed Terms of Service to cover yourself
>
>
>
> 2009/10/7 Edwin Kaduki <ekaduki@gmail.com>
>
> Could not have put it better myself!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How do you guys handle projects that have grown out of scope such that
>>> you are now doing things that you had not accounted financial and manpower
>>> resources to ? Perhaps projects that the client keeps adding and changing
>>> requirements
>>> 2009/10/7 Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Joseph Wayodi <jwayodi@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <
>>>>> gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/000455.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Couldnt have put it better.
>>>>
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:20:18 +0300
From: Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Guardin against ATM thefts
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If you opt for two accounts in the same bank, then you'Ll have to pay
twice for fees and there is a likelihood that the secondary account
will go to -ve.
Maybe have a synchronized system in the bank where a discreet panic
button is on the keypads, and when pressed, it disables all ATMs in
the lobby, 'swallows' the card from where the panic came, alarm goes
off and all door close. A camera can come in handy to stop an ATM from
working if two people go to make a withdrawal but not on deposits.

On 07/10/2009, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another solution is to have two bank accounts in the same bank. One should
> be the main account that has a large sum of money, while the secondary
> account has a small amount of money. You then leave the ATM for the primary
> account at home and walk around with the secondary account ATM. You then use
> mobile electronic transfer to transfer a "safe" sum of money from primary to
> secondary account. This way, only the "safe" amount will be at risk.
>
> 2009/10/7 wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>
>
>> LOL,
>>
>> How come I've never been told this? I have ATM cards from several major
>> banks and I definately cannot recall them telling me that this is
>> possible.
>> Since I've never had anyone else mention this (which means the banks
>> haven't
>> told them) I can only assume that these Banks know of a flaw in that
>> technique or their ATMs don't support it.
>>
>> O_O!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 10/7/09, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Guardin against ATM thefts
>> To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 9:04 AM
>>
>>
>> Wesley .....this has always been there,though i have never tried it.
>> When under distress key in your PIN in reverse order. The balance will
>> be a fraction of your total. I understand it's a std for all ATMs.
>>
>> On 07/10/2009, wesley kirinya
>> <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > I believe many of us have heard of someone who was forced by thugs to go
>> to
>> > an ATM and withdraw cash.
>> >
>> > So an idea popped. Why can't banks issue atleast 2 PINs per ATM card. If
>> a
>> > person is forced to withdraw cash then they can use the second
>> > (distress)
>> > PIN. This PIN will let the system display that the person only has a
>> > fraction of the amount in his/her account. Once that PIN has been used,
>> > using the first PIN will not display the correct amount in the account
>> until
>> > the person visits one of the bank's branch.
>> >
>> > This way thugs only get a fraction of the original amount. Thugs would
>> know
>> > that a person has 2 PINs but it's a 50/50 gamble on whether they will
>> > use
>> > the right PIN. Thugs may force the person to give up his/her 2 PINs. If
>> they
>> > use the second PIN there is no way of knowing the true amount in the
>> > person's account even if they used the first PIN. If they used the first
>> PIN
>> > before the second PIN then it's a lucky day for the thugs.
>> >
>> > Whether use of the second PIN should generate a distress call is another
>> > issue. Atleast the above offers some way of protection for bank
>> customers.
>> > Thugs will get away with some of the money but not as much as they could
>> > have gotten away with.
>> >
>> > o_O!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:25:20 +0300
From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Delivering torrents as http traffic
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thanks ashok, byebeye rapidshare premium

2009/10/7 <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>
>

> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Dennis Kioko wrote:
> > Is it possible to have a service where servers download torrents and
> forward
> > them to a user as http traffic, such that if torrents are blocked or
> > throttled on my network, I can input them on the service and get a http
> link
> > that will come in as a normal download which will not be blocked or
> > throttled.
> >
> > does such a service exist?
>
> See :
>
> https://www.furk.net/
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:27:41 +0100
From: Sammy Njoroge <smmynjoroge@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
Subject: [Skunkworks] Online payment
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While we still wait for mpesa to create an open api if they EVER plan to,
here is a different apporach to online payments thats being used in SA

http://www.mimoney.co.za/
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:32:36 -0400
From: Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com>
To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Looking for Logistics Company
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DHL, Fedex and UPS are pretty much it for what you are looking for. if
you use USPS at some point the handling will be shifted to posta and
thats not what you want. The costs are pretty much as you were given so
there is no short cut about it.

The other option is if you have a connection over on this end you could
handle the shipping issues directly with the airline (but take note;
some airlines dont have cargo planes) so in such cases omeone has to
travel with the shipment. But i dont know how much you'd save on the
airline.

SKYPE: sobbayi
US: +1 202 297 6831
+1 202 470 0525
KE: +254 722 627 691

Kevin Ouma wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know any reputable logistics company based in the US that
> can handle airfreight ( preferably one managed by Kenyans)
> of IT equipment from the US to Kenya. I checked with DHL and Fedex
> and found their rates too high.
>
> Regards
> Kevin
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:34:43 +0300
From: Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Looking for Logistics Company
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*IMHO, avoid Fedex like a plague! Local Fedex is a big mess lately ( seems
they moved from transami ), had a small item shipped and it landed on time
but the stories that I got from them and 2 weeks later the item was still
not cleared ( though the item was zero rated ).
*
Same experience by someone I know.... and yes the item was zero rated.

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On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:12 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:38:45 +0300
From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Looking for Logistics Company
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If funds aint an issue use DHL.

If they are use One World Couriers.......

Get ready to push though.....& yes Customs is an issue ......once you
have imported on your own you learn !!!

YELLOW PAGES.......

On 10/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
> *IMHO, avoid Fedex like a plague! Local Fedex is a big mess lately ( seems
> they moved from transami ), had a small item shipped and it landed on time
> but the stories that I got from them and 2 weeks later the item was still
> not cleared ( though the item was zero rated ).
> *
> Same experience by someone I know.... and yes the item was zero rated.
>
> --
> Josiah Mugambi
> Samuel
> Goldwyn<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/samuel_goldwyn.html>
> - "I'm willing to admit that I may not always be right, but I am never
> wrong."
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:12 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:41:14 +0300
From: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Looking for Logistics Company
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Kevin are the goods for sale?If so from the US use DHL if in the USA

On 10/7/09, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know any reputable logistics company based in the US that can
> handle airfreight ( preferably one managed by Kenyans)
> of IT equipment from the US to Kenya. I checked with DHL and Fedex and
> found their rates too high.
>
> Regards
> Kevin
>

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Arthur Simiyu <arthursimiyu@yahoo.com>
To: skunkworks skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: [Skunkworks] Rack server pricing
Message-ID: <630915.75415.qm@web52101.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Hi,
How much will rack servers with the following specs cost?
Need one of the following asap so send me your quotations?
Server class machine with SCSI RAID disk array

?
1GB JVM RAM
2x server CPU (or 1xDual-core)
?
1GB JVM RAM
4x server CPU (or 2xDual-core)
?
2GB JVM RAM
8x server CPU (or 4xDual-core)

regards,
Simiyu Arthur
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