On the KDN thread that Wash posted, I posted about a solution am working on re : CSM. Regarding the telco thread, that was mine and you say it holds no water. Would it be wrong to say that if i write about a solution or website etc, it is marketing? I once remember you wanted to sell your STI on this list. Have you ever opened the bonnet and changed that Denso plug or ever wondered why NGK iridium works better? But if anyone told you that, would it sound like marketing, right? aahhhrrgg!!!