probably more of them than you had imagined...... On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
OMG a loving this thread, so we have real network engineers here!!!
./Chuks
On 10/29/09, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Guys,
I have read this thread like I was witnessing a defense case on a humorous kenyan court. @Simon if you have time use either and walk the talk yourself now that you have received the information.
I really like the thread now that I know there a quite a few guys who know their networks well here, at some time I thot his forum is full of developers we should now really contributed. I got my own mind bogging issues but I shall start a new thread on it later.
Best luck Simon, hope to hear ur view soon.
Regards Themburu
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such
a line?
call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer
== Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# ==
does this look like calculus to you?
I beg your pardon.. was that directed at me? If so, then forgive me but I don't remember talking about IPSec and VPN tunnel... I was talking about loading IOS images into a simulated router. And the activist bit.. I think you took it a little too seriously... it was in line with that rat joke. Anyway, sorry for stirring your anger/strong reaction, but I think I thanked all for their input and settled for GNS3. But that doesn't mean Packet Tracer is bad, in fact, I believe it's very good. So I hope we are all a happy lot now.
Enjoy your lunch :)
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
> But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully > simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring > them? I > doubt, but not so sure... > > > 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> > >> No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an >> example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what >> seck9 >> means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and >> let me >> baptize you in the name of "confi t"... >> >> == >> System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) >> Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. >> >> Self decompressing the image : >> ########################################################################## >> [OK] >> Restricted Rights Legend >> >> Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is >> subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph >> (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted >> Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph >> (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer >> Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013. >> >> cisco Systems, Inc. >> 170 West Tasman Drive >> San Jose, California 95134-1706 >> >> >> >> Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version >> 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) >> Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport >> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. >> Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team >> Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50 >> >> >> This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United >> States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and >> use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply >> third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use >> encryption. >> Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for >> compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product >> you >> agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are >> unable >> to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately. >> >> A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be >> found at: >> http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html >> >> If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email >> to >> export@cisco.com. >> >> >> Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. >> Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E >> M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 >> 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) >> 191K bytes of NVRAM. >> 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) >> Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version >> 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) >> Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport >> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. >> Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team >> >> >> --- System Configuration Dialog --- >> >> Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no >> >> >> Press RETURN to get started! >> >> >> >> Router>en >> Router# >> Router# >> == >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image >>> and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer? >>> >>> >>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>> >>>> hi >>>> >>>> Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. >>>> If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for >>>> GNS3. Do >>>> you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is >>>> not >>>> available in packet tracer? >>>> >>>> Packet tracer: let us get to command line >>>> >>>> - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing >>>> - static routes >>>> - dynamic routing - except BGP >>>> - multilayer switching >>>> - IPsec VPNs >>>> - ... >>>> >>>> >>>> === >>>> Router(config)#rout >>>> Router(config)#router ? >>>> eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) >>>> ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) >>>> === >>>> >>>> Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is >>>> dangerous to a toy boy. >>>> >>>> For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and >>>> Redistribution (used GNS3) >>>> If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use >>>> GNS3. >>>> >>>> kind regards, >>>> frank >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Francis, >>>>> >>>>> I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, >>>>> it's >>>>> a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, >>>>> which I'm >>>>> struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Me. >>>>> >>>>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> frank >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >>>>>> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sir, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>>>>>> 3700, and >>>>>>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees >>>>>>> though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 1700 can also do that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michuki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> aki wrote: >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>> Hey guys, >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. >>>>>>> I wish to >>>>>>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a >>>>>>> purchase. Is there such >>>>>>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? >>>>>>> >>> On >>>>>>> google, all I >>>>>>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which >>>>>>> >>> I >>>>>>> think are not >>>>>>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Me. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco >>>>>>> > in >>>>>>> years, try >>>>>>> > Cisco Config Maker. 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