David

Thanks for bringing this out. The regulation will touch on anyone who wants to dominate any sector. It is not targeting a player. Safaricom's argument is this. "We are the only one with over 25% market share hence for now, we are alone in the boiling pot of this regulation". My bad. Yes you are being roasted but it is not personal MJ. And these are rules which should have been introduced loong time ago. The condition in the market now is that Safaricom is a monopoly. 
 That is making competition and consumer right side issues. We must fight for this and the only way Safaricom will change is when we tell them that no, they must reform. 

The market is not level and so others cant compete. Safaricom will even get alot of airtime telling their story but others will be shut out because of the kidn of money which Safaricom spends in the advertisement. 

Oketch


-----Original Message-----
From: David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom getting purnished unfairly

I think this discussion is too skewed toward the Mobile sector what I
would be interested to know, would the same law apply to KDN,
Wananchi Online, KBC (Signet) or Citizen TV should it be found that
they are abusing their Fiber/Airwaves or HFC deployments for market
share? If not then yes Safaricom is being targeted.

No regulation should target a player (Unless they are Micro$oft or
Intel). Let's also not forget the DG's background he was working in
Competition dept, it was only a matter of time before this kind of
measure showed up, some personal fingerprint and accolades for taming
the bad boys.

My thoughts

Kiania D



On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys the regulations will probably make safcom lower their tariffs-
> cheaper calls for the subscribers. How is that a bad thing? The
> subscriber wins, making it easier to do business, not having to carry
> 3 or 4 lines with you to keep in touch. That makes communication
> simpler for us. Then the companies can be judged on the quality of
> their service. Don't like one network? Move with your number to
> another... Been waiting for this for years!
>
> On 5/5/10, mikeoketch@aol.com <mikeoketch@aol.com> wrote:
>> Guys
>>
>>
>> The regulations are here
>> http://www.cck.go.ke/regulations/sector_regulations.html
>>
>>
>> Let nobody cheat you that CCK is targeting Safaricom. Like we said to Dr
>> Ndemo. We as the young people can innovate with cheap technology but we will
>> resort to Haki Yetu antics if and when some players are allowed unofficial
>> monopoly since we wont ever get cheaper services.
>>
>>
>> I like the arguments of Odhiambo. Safaricom holds all the high spenders and
>> it is stifling competition
>>
>>
>> Oketch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
>> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>> Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:28 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom getting purnished unfairly
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have the exact laws that were published on pdf so that we
>> may understand why one grown man is grumbling while three others are
>> cheering?
>>
>> ./Ok3ch
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I disagree,,,, except for interconnectivity charges. That should come
>>> down,
>>> then leave every man (or telco) to himself.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Totally agree with you Okech....
>>>>
>>>> ./bernard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All I see here is a personal opinion, and not a direct reference to
>>>>> the said laws and where the laws are punishing SufferingCon
>>>>>
>>>>> ./Ok3ch
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng
>>>>> > <ajochola@gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Politics Peter.......
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> > Alvin;
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Im seething with anger the whole day, why kill an innovative
>>>>> >> > company?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Me
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Alvin;
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Politics doesnt feed me, it keeps me hungry. Politics doesn't turn a
>>>>> > profit,
>>>>> > an innovative company does. Politics doesn't employ me - they take my
>>>>> > taxes
>>>>> > and waste it, an innovative company rewards its employees who in turn
>>>>> > reward
>>>>> > people close to them, including you, the customer - with
>>>>> > good/exemplary
>>>>> > service.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > They should not please a few players that do not know what they need
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > do
>>>>> > in the first place. Please no more politics. Nkt.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Peter
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow.
>>>>> >
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