>>> ./bernard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Imelda Mueni
>>> <
mueni.imelda1@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rad for president !,.,,,,well said :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:26 PM, amanya <
whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Barrack Your comments bring to mind the kowtowing to the Big Man that
>>>>> Kenya has long had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:13, Njoroge Tito
>>>>> <
titonjoroge@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Safaricom should use this as a platform to sort out the issues raised.
>>>>>> Take it as feedback on how some customers perceive their brand/network
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> aim to be better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rad, well said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You cant brush aside a platform that raises issues in a network, in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> name of "negativity". If there were no NW issues at safaricom, that
>>>>>> site
>>>>>> would not exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
ilovesafaricom.co.ke anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Tito
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 10:35, King'ori Gitahi <
kingorigitahi@ovi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very Cool RAD!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Democracy=Majority must have their way, but the minority must have
>>>>>>> their say.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in
>>>>>>> a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nelson Mandela
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From:* Okechukwu <
okechukwu@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List <
skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2011 8:40 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks]
http://www.safaricon.co.ke/ Guys check
>>>>>>> this out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks @Rad! for speaking volumes I would have wanted to say.
>>>>>>> Reminds me of Evelyn Beatrice Hall "I disapprove of what you say, but
>>>>>>> I will defend to the death your right to say it,"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ./Ok3ch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Rad! <
conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > This negative energy argument mystifies me. I believe the
>>>>>>> constitution
>>>>>>> > entitles everyone to freedom of speech. These people find Safaricom
>>>>>>> > objectionable and are expressing themselves. It came across to me
>>>>>>> > as
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> > mixture of a parody and a forum for aggrieved customers to share.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Safaricom has every right to take them to court if they feel the
>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>> > slanders them. If they have in any way broken the law let the full
>>>>>>> > force of the law take it's course.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I find the idea that Safaricom is somehow sacred because it is a
>>>>>>> > big
>>>>>>> > company and we have shares in it ludicrous.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I would not mind if it was shut down because it was found to be
>>>>>>> illegal.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > But 'negative energy'? No.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > There is no law that says we must be 'positive'. We must be mature
>>>>>>> > enough to be able to take positive criticism in out stride. We must
>>>>>>> > also be able to shrug off unwarranted criticism. Time is very kind
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> > the truth and does not need our assistance.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > That's the thing with democracy. You might find others' ideas
>>>>>>> > objectionable but you'd better fight for their right to express
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> > Or one day your own will be classifies as 'negative energy', an
>>>>>>> excuse
>>>>>>> > might i remind that dictators are fond of when dealing with
>>>>>>> > dissent.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Give thanks to the Jaramogis and Shikukus of this world who refused
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> > toe the line of 'non negativity' and opened the doors to multiparty
>>>>>>> > democracy.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Friday, May 20, 2011, Barrack Otieno <
otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> Ok3, its not a question of loving or hating a company its a
>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>> >> of culture, if you are dissatisfied with a company take it to
>>>>>>> court,
>>>>>>> >> we don't need this kind of negative energy when we are building
>>>>>>> >> foundations of our economy, let's be objective there is the letter
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> >> the law and the spirit, let's uphold the spirit.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 5/20/11, Okechukwu <
okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> Who gives anyone the right to decide what the owner of the domain
>>>>>>> >>> intends to do with it - if you think its malice, thats your
>>>>>>> >>> issue,
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> >>> the owners. I think Mich has pointed out everything in the way it
>>>>>>> >>> should be. If you love SafferingCon, please know that there are
>>>>>>> >>> millions of others who hate it and they have a right to their own
>>>>>>> >>> opinion.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> ./Ok3ch
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM, amanya <
whynnot@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> a whois query shows the domain as active, this could have little
>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>>> >>>> Kenic
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> ++++++
>>>>>>> >>>> there's an app for that :-p
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On May 19, 2011 7:02 PM, "Barrack Otieno" <
>>>>>>>
otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>> @ Mich well said but in this case the intention is clear,
>>>>>>> >>>>> smells
>>>>>>> Malice.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> On 5/19/11, Michuki Mwangi <
michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/19/11 5:15 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does this mean that KeNic can be arm twisted into
>>>>>>> DE-registering
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> account of another company. Minch what is the true position
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> I dont know what the current dispute resolution policy says -
>>>>>>> hence it
>>>>>>> >>>>>> would probably require legal interpretation.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> IMHO
www.safaricon.co.ke is not
safaricom.co.ke hence the
>>>>>>> issue of
>>>>>>> >>>>>> registration "in bad faith" would only come into play if they
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> >>>>>> using the said content on a domain like
safaricom.or.ke or
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> >>>>>> similar to safaricom.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Do you remember the story of
www.whitehouse.gov,
>>>>>>>
whitehouse.org and
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
www.whitehouse.gov?. If not
>>>>>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehouse.com
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> IMHO, where the name is different that cannot be interpreted
>>>>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be in
>>>>>>> >>>>>> bad faith since the domain or the name safaricon doesnt belong
>>>>>>> to them.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> In other words, the same folks can go and register a domain
>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>> >>>>>> completely different name and still achieve the same
>>>>>>> objectives. KENIC
>>>>>>> >>>>>> would have no grounds to shut them down. So if the posting is
>>>>>>> correct,
>>>>>>> >>>>>> they are likely going to go to an TLD outside Kenya (see above
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
whitehouse.gov story) so it would be a different level of
>>>>>>> engagement for
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Safaricom when someone registers
safaricon.com which as we
>>>>>>> speak is open
>>>>>>> >>>>>> for registration! :|
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> KENIC are likely to open a pandora's box because it means
>>>>>>> anyone who
>>>>>>> >>>>>> registers a name in future like
safaricom.or.ke or
>>>>>>>
safaricon.or.ke will
>>>>>>> >>>>>> likely have a problem too. wont they?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> my 2 cents!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Michuki.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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