
Where the experiential learning cycle comes in, when you've got all the time in the world; 1. What happened to the system? (we have little or no idea) 2. What was experienced by the end user? (some error message) 3. Why did this happen? (come up with all kinds of possible assumptions on what happened - based on similar error messages you've had with different production systems) 4. What is to be done to avoid future occurrences?(give free advise, we know they're reading this - wait, isn't someone getting paid to do all these??) On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What I've noticed I'm my short experience is decimation of lessons learnt. Between us we have years of technical hands-on, get-your-hands-dirty experience. What we should discuss in this thread, IMHO, is potential design flaws. Without quoting any press on who said what or where. Whiteafrican has a high level call flow on the various interconnecting elements. We can use that for starters.
http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/
./bernard On Mar 6, 2013 10:18 AM, "Tech List Kenya" <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
It's our professional duty and responsibility to question this. In as much as IEBC needs time to sort themselves, and inasmuch as we acknowledge that things go wrong, we cannot just sweep it under the carpet and shrug it off. Sorry to say, that's just plain irresponsible.
Most of you know how much clients ride you to deliver, even clients who don't pay. Especially these ones. Now imagine a client paying 9b! I am always amused at how much slack we want to cut guys who undercut us.
Anyway, back to issue at hand.
@Mwagiru, can you lead a virtual team to conceptualize a proper voting
@Hans, the doc you posted shows the RFP as of Dec. With screenshots from both mobile and desktop apps. This means the system had already been developed. So what is the point of failure? If we say the failure is not in transmission but rather in processing, does that mean the data is already at IEBC servers? What would be the technological reason for the system to stop processing (this is a very ambiguous term). Data visualization is being done by google from IEBC servers.
So what exactly is failing?
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Shadrack Mwaniki < shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Skunks, Pole for the delay in results. These are the kind of things that make people suspicious and not trust local ICT professionals. The public has no idea if th system is foreign or local. All they know is that 9b of their money was spent on the systems. The transactions being managed by IEBC are so small that they can be managed by a powerful desk top on any relational database. doin't even talk of concurrent submission of results because all that is need is a good queue management algorith. A separate desktop would handle the incoming traffic from polling stations As have always said, the problem is instead of providing a solution, systems are provided instead.
Regards shad
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Put in perspectives:
The data set: about 33,000 polling stations. 6 positions being contested for. Presidential race had 8 candidates.
Just for presidential race, thats about 270,000 unique results to be populated in a database. 270,000 in 2 days and we have had significant failure.
Even if you multiply that number by 6 for other positions, assuming an average of 8 contestants per seat, that number comes to less than 2m entries in a database.
Equity bank has more than 5m customers. Safaricom has 15m subscribers on mpesa.
Even when you think about it in terms of transactions, the number of transactions goes down significantly.
This is a real shame for IEBC.
On 6 March 2013 09:09, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote:
http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/
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On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Who said scaling MYSQL is necessary when the cheque and traffic comes once every 4 years?
On 3/6/13, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:
Lets just say its a KES 9B lesson to the government that hires 'foreign companies' because they are 'big'
I hear, the 'weed' tells me one had to login to the same server(database) to send the results. Am not sure they did run tests with 30,000 concurrent users so the db kept giving way, halafu mnajua zile logs za mysql on error. They filled the disk like crazy! -- just speculating -- I in no way know these guys! Then I can imagine the conversation
Boss: vhat is happening Signh (shaking his head) Signh: donno databes only 10 MEg. Just chekin. Boss: Vy data not coming in u nno. Signh: dh -f
$ unknown command $ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1 2000G 1999.2G 0.6G 99% / varrun 393M 144k 393M 1% /var/run varlock 393M 0 393M 0% /var/lock procbususb 393M 123k 393M 1% /proc/bus/usb udev 393M 123k 393M 1% /dev
Signh: They send too much, too much data, see Boss: Yeah, too much sending 2Tb full already, patel, vhere is that 4 Tb disk! just plug it and ve ar in business! Signh: >$sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
$password: ** $ wrong password try again:*** $ ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server
through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
$
On a lighter note though *_______________________________________________________________ We must Keep on, *
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Dickson <dhikims@gmail.com> wrote:
Still the data amount is small even for processing. What amount of data does say bank systems process on a normal working day. Its bigger than what IEBC will process.
I believe we have skills that can handle that system. Let's give IEBC benefit of patience they sort themselves out. Best Regards,
Dickson.
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