[Skunkworks] Old Skunkworks-ke archives

Any idea what happened to the old skunks-ke archives? I can only find archives going back to April 2009. These two links also give different lists of lists, which is definitive? http://my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo <-- this one has more lists http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo saidi