On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:02 AM, LEO <onyango.liech@gmail.com> wrote:

if we accept ccna certification as a measure of being an expert in network design and management, we also accept a certification in RH Linux as a measure that one is competent in the use of linux, why not accept MS ICDL as a measure that one can use word processors, spreadsheets et al...and by the way I'm an opensource user so don't bite my head off. The issue here is to gauge IT literacy levels and I think the GOK should keep off the proprietary debate...I urge PS. Dr. Ndemo to steer off.

Regards,
LEO

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dr. Ndemo,
> Permit me to differ with you on this and agree with Waudo's position, such
> a move would be defeatist, let the market decide what it wants with regard
> to the Computer Applications, the issue here is about the skills and the
> market should determine that , Africa as a continent and we as a country
> are trying to catch up with the developed world and only "freedom" can can
> bring about innovation, i think governmnet should focus on Infrastructure
> and the global policy environment. I would like to get the opinion of
> other policy makers on the same issue.
> Regards

>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> If they report your Open Source clarification clearly, then we may
>> consider dropping our open source complaint to MCK.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> a.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>> > I will be on KTN in 5 minutes to clarify this. Please watch.
>> >
>> > Ndemo
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:05:01
>> > To: Zacs<mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com>
>> > Cc: Skunkworks Forum<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>;
>> > ke-users<ke-internetusers@bdix.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted: Is
>> > Open
>> > Office recognized?
>> >
>> > I have reliable information to the effect that the PS mentioned both
>> > Open Source ICDL and Proprietary ICDL. Now looking for the actual KTN
>> > footage to confirm what was actually reported, upon whose
>> > confirmation, if found skewed reporting as true we shall lodge a
>> > formal, open complaint against the media house to the Media Council of
>> > Kenya for misinformation on such a sensitive national subject.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> I seriously believe there is no way ICDL can be a proprietary licence.
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
>> >> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users
>> >> <ke-internetusers@bdix.net>
>> >> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 12:19:57 AM
>> >> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted: Is
>> >> Open
>> >> Office recognized?
>> >>
>> >> If they only gazette ICDL and leave out OpenICDL
>> >> http://www.openicdl.org/ we shall go to court to have the Gazette
>> >> Notice annulled on the basis of its illegality hence illegitimacy.
>> >> Contemplating such an illegal move would leave sour scars and in any
>> >> case we no longer have time for niceties play with Microsofties
>> >> family..
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> I sincerely hope this is not the case. It would be very unfortunate if
>> >>> government forces citizens to take a certain route.
>> >>> From my small investigation ICDL seems to be a pretty widespread
>> >>> standard
>> >>> that is supposed to be vendor neutral and not linked to any particular
>> >>> software. See this link for some
>> >>> information. http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=102&n=108 as
>> >>> well
>> >>> as
>> >>> this one http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=108&n=119. I hope
>> >>> this
>> >>> is what was in mind
>> >>>
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