A should be charged upto point B and B is charged for the call to C. i guess that would be fair On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Joram Gachuiri <jgachuirii@gmail.com>wrote:
Its actually very ok this scenario. A calls B who has diverted calls to C From a network point of view (Switching and Billing) we have two calls here. The first call is A to B and the second call B is calling C. A may not know that his call is diverted if there are no corresponding announcements put on the switch to relay such info. The only Party who does not pay here is C. Note that CDR (Call Detail Records) are generated for both calls. B must have airtime to initiate a call to C. This scenario has been there since Kencell and Safcom launced.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Francis Okinyo <okinyo@gmail.com> wrote:
the line that initiates the call, pays for it, period!
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
and its also purely for business that the Telco's charge for that service - since it costs to set up a call all ./Ok3ch
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:35 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
But we also need to consider some of the reasons why we divert calls. One among many is for business reasons where you might be having a briefcase business with a phone line 0722*****1 and your personal line is 0722*****2. In case you do not want to keep carrying two phones (personal and business) and do not want to in vest in a duo-sim phone you divert all the calls on 0722*****1 to 0722*****2 to make sure you do not miss any business calls.
I think this is adavid gathu wrote:
@net
that's so true. humans are smart
2009/11/11 Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com <mailto:bgp.peers@gmail.com>>
I find this normal...Think of this
Lines are open in my office to call my cellphone at anytime for any length of time by anyone in the company.Then if it is free for me to make diverts,what happens when I want to make many calls to my friends and relatives etc using the office phones allowed to call my cellphone?I just divert my calls to the person I want to call and I use company resources.Does it make any sense?
My thoughts
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:29 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com <mailto:ndungustephen@gmail.com>> wrote:
Its all about resources....
Start a circuit switched call, it follows certain hops [meaning you call one simcard, which diverts to another etc] , each hop initiates a Charging Data Record for each SIM card- these calls can either be charged to the user initiating the call [which is a bit unfair, if its not an international call] or it can be divided up and charged to those SIMs...
So, they choose to divide it up and charge to those SIMs - because, then they would ask the question : What if the SIM diverting is not yours ?
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They wouldnt know if it belongs to the same person or different person; unless we do number registration or a certain "service" to identify one user and map hi/her several numbers. Which means the system has to be created and integrated into network, which again means investing in a network service that may or may not fetch revenue but which will cost billions cause they have to alter the way they charge for calls [this means the IN and part of Core]... which brings us to the question :
Is it worth it to invest in this service [costing billions] of allowing users to register several SIMs within the networks to allow for free diversions within the network ? Will the other networks agree to join for this free diversion of calls if these SIM cards are owned by the same person and other pple want to reach him on whatever network he/she is in ?
My 70 cents.
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