I&#39;ve been reading <a href="http://www.facebook.com/thefacebookeffect">The Facebook Effect</a>, and a few things stand out:<div>- No quick cash mentality. Money was not their primary motivation. Zuckerberg wanted &#39;a more open society&#39;. Probably still isn&#39;t. If it was, they would have sold out ages ago.</div>

<div>- They worked really really hard.</div><div>- Having the &#39;conditions&#39; right and taking advantage of them. Time, Network, Market, Skills etc</div><div>- Learning from the mistakes of others - apparently <a href="http://friendster.com">friendster.com</a> was such a hit initially that its servers ground to a halt...</div>

<div><br></div><div>I agree with Joram we need to create value. e.g a product not just a program (or website)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div dir="ltr">--<br><font color="#990000">Josiah Mugambi </font></div>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Peter Karunyu <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pkarunyu@gmail.com">pkarunyu@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

@Joram, I am looking that the list of things i pay 500 or more for per month and all of them seem like necessities, rent, water, stima, fare/fuel. <div><br></div><div>but then i guess thats where innovation comes in, some brilliant techie makes that awesome &#39;thing&#39; which i gotta keep paying for over and over again, something i cant do without...</div>

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<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Joram Mwinamo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:joram.mwinamo@gmail.com" target="_blank">joram.mwinamo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


I totally disagree with the initial hypothesis of this thread<div><br></div><div>You can even microtarget in kenya, nairobi and dare I say even buru buru alone. If you have an app that targets 1000 subscribers who pay you 500 bob a month , how much is that? </div>



<div><br></div><div>Dont bother going east africa if you havent even conquered your backyard. Kenyans are just too lazy to create value, people want quick riches hence the corruption movement. <div><div></div><div>
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On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Mike M. <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mmycool@gmail.com" target="_blank">mmycool@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



and another feature for the tax man tracking...<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Phares Kariuki <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pkariuki@gmail.com" target="_blank">pkariuki@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>




<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color="#000066"><font size="2"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">Jay Bhalla (lurking on the list) created the site... It&#39;s one of the purposes in the longer term... I&#39;m guessing we can add a feature for supplier tracking... <br>






</font></font></font><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ngugi@mafundi.co.ke" target="_blank">ngugi@mafundi.co.ke</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>




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<font face="courier new,monospace">There is <a href="http://www.startupindex.co.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.startupindex.co.ke/</a> where we were invited to register our start-up business and which I personally did. I did not know what the real agenda for the site was, but if possible such a site can be expanded to include rating of the registered businesses as far as customer satisfaction is concerned.<br>








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<div>Very well said Phares. I&#39;m sure this group has enough of us looking forward to this kind of portal - the standards will definately save people money and make the market style up.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Why don&#39;t you start this as an initiative. I&#39;ve seen campaigns against malpractices - but this one will hit the necessary spots. </div>-- <br>Regards,<br><font color="#888888">Mike Muraguri<br>








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