What the writer is alluding to means something NSA-like eventually. Question is, can the gvt and Kenyans handle it... On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com>wrote:
From recent events (mandatory SIM registration, I'm looking at you), it takes little to herd wananchi into this sort of bull. Just pass a "law" that makes failure to share ALL your information a criminal offence. Bank statements, ID, passport, employment history, kinship, who visits your house, how long they intend to stay, what was in the paper bags you brought in last night.
Ridiculous you think? Go read up on the "nyumba kumi" programs in Tz and Rw. Draw your own conclusions.
Those who refuse to conform with the sharing will quickly be labelled "terrorist", and investigated endlessly. Successful hustlers who make much without a "permanent job" will be investigated. People with changing work shifts will draw attention. Work with an NGO and travel frequently to Somalia? Get ready to explain why you shouldn't be investigated for Al-Shabaab links. Oh yeah. This is easy for abuse by people with scores to settle. Just report "suspicious" behaviour, and his/her life is screwed,
THIS <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office> is what we will end up with.
Inevitable slippery slope.
Every time I hear the mention of "nyumba kumi", I get reaally, reaally mad.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
Copy paste ... aiii Kenyan problem , Kenyan Solution ,getting electronic data will just lead to a reduction of technology adoptation .
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
We shouldn't even be talking about this... could lead to arrest for “provoking propaganda”:
http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Why-Kimaiyo-left-Kenyans-baffled-over-t...
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:
The suggestion that Kenya has reached a point where information collected from cell towers and banks is sufficient to mitigate terrorist is both naive and laughable.
1. Kenya runs a predominantly cash based economy 2. There are no official residence records in Kenya 3. There is not formal transport system in Kenya and no way of tracking movements of residents 4. It is reported that terrorists are choosing to hold face to face meetings when discussing their plans
and the list goes on.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Vincent Mosoti <kindvinnie@gmail.com>wrote:
I tend to agree with the writer, if only those in charge (NSIS) knew the potential of (Big) data.But again, just like oil, data has got lots of politics in it. About privacy, there is nothing which will stop the government (just thinking) from doing Surveillance on anybody if they wanted to.
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