@simon Then can we assume, if ADNC, decide not scramble their signal, then by law, the Gotv Decoder and Star times decoder should be able to receive their signals? What will the 5 FTA channels be in ADNC? now that they only have a total of 10 channels On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:06 PM, simon njoroge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Third party includes FTA yes
Also the "must carry rule" applies for the *Self provisioning license *which according to DG is set at a minimum of 5 FTAs in addition to their exclusive content.
These 5 should not be charged for access.That's why GOTV and Star times had to get the open decoder options -what is been referred to as "administration fees" here
@Alex yes the decoder can be both FTA and have conditional access. Bamba decoder has both
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Alex Nderitu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Third party content (or is it second party) is the channels in this case (Lolwe, Njata, EBRU etc) and this is FTA (not sure it can be non-FTA) but if it was the decoder wouldn't be FTA since the content provider would have to enforce conditional access (CA) and this is enforced at STB level.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
And "third party content" doesn't include FTA, right?
Now, help me understand who is the third party, especially if the signal is scrambled?
On 17 February 2015 at 13:40, Alex Nderitu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Then again, they are not the same; two licenses are at play
(Self provisioning license - They cannot transmit third party content, only their content) (Broadcast Signal Distributor - They transmit third party content, are ideally not content providers)
DSTV which transmits as GoTV - *Self provisioning license* PANG which transmits as PANG also owns Startimes - *Broadcast Signal Distributor* BAMBA - radio africa group - *Self provisioning license* SIGNET- an arm of KBC - *Broadcast Signal Distributor* then finally we have ADNC -*Self provisioning license*
Now, the big question is why would ADNC be interested in signal distribution since they cannot offer it as a service and hence will only incur additional cost of network maintenance without any revenues generated.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Stephen Munguti via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
there are three signal distributors,
DSTV which transmits as GoTV PANG which transmits as PANG also owns Startimes BAMBA - radio africa group SIGNET- an arm of KBC then finally we have ADNC
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm lost here, isnt GoTV same s signet?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Stephen Munguti via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> by govt STB, i mean the STB licensed by CA and distributed by the 60 > licensed distributors > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Odhiambo Washington < > odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> All the STBs licensed by CA are for receiving, primarily, the FTAs. >> >> So, let's start with the Bamba (from Radio Africa Group). It is >> supposed to and was sreceiving the FTAs before the self-switch-off. >> >> 1. Does the Startimes STB receive SIGNET channels? Sorry, I don't >> have it so I don't know. >> 2. Does the GoTV STB receive SIGNET channels? I think it does, but >> I need to verify tonight:) >> 3. The govt STB is which one?? >> 4. My Sony Digital TV receives GoTV, Startimes, SIGNET, Bamba and >> some other signals there.... but the scrambling of some of them obviously >> is the issue. >> >> >> On 17 February 2015 at 12:35, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Also maybe we can do a research here, >>> >>> Does the Startimes STB receive signet channels? >>> Does the GoTV STB receive signet channels? >>> I know that the Government STB recieves both STV and GOTV save for >>> the scrambling issue. >>> The digital TV is equivalent to the govt recommended STB >>> >>> So the last question is this, if KTN,NTV and Citizen were to >>> invest in the transmission equipment, what would stop the current STB from >>> receiving their signal? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Odhiambo Washington via >>> skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> I remember GoTV asking for a one time "administration fee" of >>>> about 1,500 or something close for them to allow you to watch FTA channels >>>> even when your subscription is expired. Did this change? >>>> >>>> On 17 February 2015 at 10:59, Okechukwu via skunkworks < >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>> @James - the pay TV license is different from the digital >>>>> distribution licence - thats why DSTV can prevent you if you don't pay but >>>>> GoTV cannot prevent you from the FTA channels if you don't pay, yet >>>>> technically the company is one >>>>> >>>>> ./Ok3ch >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:33 AM, James Njoroge via skunkworks < >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can someone explain to me why DSTV prevents you from watching >>>>>> local channels when you don't pay your subscription. It seems unfair to me >>>>>> as they are basically asking you to pay for something that's free. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 21:35, Job Muriuki via skunkworks < >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's all about the money they stand to lose to the new >>>>>>> entrants in the industry. >>>>>>> How long do you think they can last not airing any Adverts >>>>>>> before companies >>>>>>> decide to ship out and look for alternatives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Job Muriuki, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skype: heviejob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Odhiambo Washington via >>>>>>> skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shadrack, we do respect your opinion, but you really need to >>>>>>>> read about the whole saga in order to be able to even 'think' about >>>>>>>> anything related to it:-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What does the sale of the STBs got to do with in in your >>>>>>>> opinion? >>>>>>>> Didn't the Cartel already know that CCK (CA) licensed about >>>>>>>> 60 distributors for the STBs (non-subscription) ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 12:13, Shadrack Mwaniki via skunkworks >>>>>>>> <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Me thinks the problem has to do with the sale of setboxes >>>>>>>>> with monthly subscription to views who only interest is the free-to-air >>>>>>>>> channels. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 16, 2015 11:29 AM, Stephen Munguti >>>>>>>>> via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a few questions, that i also need answered >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whats copyright infringement/plagiarism? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How has DSTV satellite broadcasting been delivering KTN,NTV >>>>>>>>> and Citizen to their viewers in remote areas, inclusive of neighboring >>>>>>>>> countries, prior to all this problems beginning, was it illegal? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Tony 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